It appears your comparing COBOL's functional abilities, and the availability
of COBOL compilers to the poor handling, and inability to get parts for a
50's model automobile...hmmm....I'm gonn'a go out on a limb here, but I
don't think that analogy works in this case. Of course, I probably just
misunderstood your intent...since you obviously know a lot about COBOL and
cars. :-)
Ray Shahan
"Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans", John Lennon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Thompson [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:47 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Java and C#/.NET (Was: RE: Samba and Java question)
>
> In article <[log in to unmask]>, Wayne R. Boyer
> <[log in to unmask]> writes
> >In a message dated 3/4/03 1:59:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >[log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> >> She added that COBOL was a dead language...
> >
> >I heard that in my Java class last semester... funny - the code still
> >compiles and runs, people still use it. And shockingly for the Java
> >boosters, COBOL has lots of nifty features. I was very good in class
> though.
> > I didn't do any 'compare and contrast' stuff between languages. I could
> >have compared EVALUATE to it's enemic Java equivalent though - what was
> it?
> >struct? Actually I think that one could compare EVALUATE to the case
> >structure of just about any other language and COBOL will win.
>
> My brother-in-law has a 1950's auto that's done 500,000 miles, still
> starts first time, and looks very pretty. Unfortunately due to the age
> of the technology, it needs an oil change every 3000 miles, the brakes
> are so poor it takes for ever to stop, corners like a pig, and costs an
> arm and a leg when it needs spares or servicing, if you can find the
> parts. He can't understand why I wont take the risk of travelling 1500
> miles through Europe preferring to use my three years old estate that I
> know I can get repaired virtually anywhere if it breaks down.
>
> Similarly having worked with 3GL languages such as Fortran, Cobol,
> Pascal, and even Algol (who remembers that one), for longer than I care
> to remember, I am very pleased now to have the advantages of being able
> to design and implement systems and applications using modern Object-
> Oriented design methodologies; to be able to rely on component software
> from a wide variety of sources; to not have to be concerned about
> proprietary platforms; to be able to easily employ the facilities
> provided by web application servers like Tomcat, JBOSS, Orion, and
> Websphere; to be able to use powerful GUI's like JBuilder and VisualAge;
> and to be able easily to connect to a wide range of DBMS's using JDBC.
> And all without concern for the target platform. In fact I feel really
> spoilt for choice of reliable, supportable, cost-effective solutions,
> thanks to Java - but not the proprietary version from Microsoft, nor the
> very early slow, insecure, unstable, semi-obsolete version they tried
> shipping with XP.
>
> Several commentators in this thread have suggested that Java is dead.
> Well someone had better tell IBM since most of their middleware has been
> rewritten in Java which is why it runs on so many platforms and is so
> successful.
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> Chris Thompson
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