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Thus it was written in the epistle of Ron Wuerth,
>
> OR ... we could all back down off our soap boxes and let attempts at levity
> (even if considered a bad attempt) lie.  But since the soap boxes are out ...

So if I take the next verse does this turn into a soap opera?

> Humor by it's nature cuts.  Someone or something is made fun of.

That has been stated on this forum before.  I didn't stand up to the claim
then, but I will now.  Humor does not have to hurt people.  Check the Tom
Swifty in my .sig or the attempt at levity above.  Neither is at the expense
of anyone's feelings.

As far as our "rolling over and dying" just because CSY made the decision,
definitely not.  I am not quite fool enough to think that a bad decision
becomes a good decision just because someone I like made it.  Rather, finding
out that CSY made the call gives me a lot more information on the value of
the decision.

If Carly had axed the 3000, it could have been for any of many, many reasons,
ranging from concern for her customers and level-headed thinking to resentment
against the platform for selling so well (well, ok, that's extremely unlikely,
but that's not my point :-).  We don't know her and much of her thinking seems
pretty opaque to many in this group.

But Carly didn't.  CSY did.  That's a lot more information.  These are people
with a vested interest in the 3000.  These are people who like their jobs and
have no desire to be moved elsewhere.  Since they did it, we can rest assured
that they are no Brutus, stabbing a living friend in the back, but rather a
doctor who has tried everything he knows to save the patient and is now
recommending that he set his affairs in order and live life to the full for
the next few years as they will most likely be his last.

That's a very different thing.  While I, also, am appalled at the thought of
murdering an wonderful, vital, growing system, that's not what happened.
Rather, they laid out a roadmap for the system which had an endpoint.  For a
company to do that while the system is still selling well is a pretty gutsy
thing to do.

> It does not mean that I personally have any beef with any of the fine folks
> of the CSY, but I do have a problem with peoples opinions and feelings being
> somehow invalidated because it was CSY who made the call.  Hence the slogans.

My point, in case I missed making it, is not that those feelings are
invalidated by the new information, but that they change because the
understanding of the announcement changes.

Best wishes,
--
Ted Ashton ([log in to unmask]) | From the Tom Swifty collection:
Southern Adventist University    | "Dawn came too soon", Tom mourned.
Deep thought to be found at      |
http://www.southern.edu/~ashted  |

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