>Chris Breemer writes:
>The posix shell is so slow in reading my keyboard input that I am forced
to
>type _slowly_ otherwise characters will get lost at random. Apart from
this,
>it seems type-ahead is disabled. This would also explain why cut and
paste
>with the mouse between hpterm's does not work like it does on HP-UX (I am
>using hpterm and vt3k to connect to MPE from a HP9000 workstation).

You might check your network connection.  I use this kind of setup almost
daily and haven't seen yet this type of performance problem in the shell.
BTW, I'm running 10.10's version of vt3k and our network is terribly
overloaded to the point we're upgrading again (wiring, topology, etc.)
this spring, so it's not like I've got lots of bandwidth to play with.

As to the mouse cut and paste, I've noticed it doesn't apply here once the
connection is made to the 3k and it looks like it may be because the
connection is behaving like a dumb terminal (700/9x), not an X window.  I
guess I'd been on the terminals and PC emulators for so long, it didn't
phase me.

>To run ftp from the shell, I created a symlink /usr/bin/ftp ->
/SYS/ARPA/FTP.
>This basically works fine, except for a couple of things. The program
seems
>to ASSUME that it's being run from the CI. It still creates files as
>fixed-length MPE files, which does not make much sense in the HFS.

The transfer handling is controlled from a file called /SYS/ARPA/BLDPARMS.
 You might want to either edit this to make ftp behave more to your liking
or create your own copy and put a file equation to BLDPARMS.ARPA.SYS in a
logon udc.

>Also
>it treats remote UNIX filenames as MPE names, also inappropriate here. I
>can get around these things using the commands "bytestream" and "case",
>resprectively. Now when I do an "mget ./*" all files get here fine.
>But trouble starts when the remote system has subdirectories. Ftp is not
>supposed to read these, but it does, and seems to get confused. I get MPE
>messages like NON-EXISTING GROUP. Why would ftp read subdirectories? >Can
this
>be prevented ?

In playing with this in 3 years, either I've been real doggone lucky or
something else is going on.  I've never had this happen and we're heavily
mixed MPE, HPUX and PC's.  What direction are you connecting from (3k to
9k? 9k to 3k?) and what are you typing?  You have to match like syntax to
the machine you're addressing. I know this feels a little odd at times,
but I guess after surviving DSCOPY and other PC packages, again, I may be
very forgiving.  ;-)

As far as the garbage in vi, it also makes me suspicious of your network
connection (traffic? loading? ip address conflicts? noise?).  I've not
seen this and I just spent a quite a bit of time last week working on some
scripting in vi.  Sorry this doesn't help you much, but you might check
some these other things just to eliminate other possibilities.

Best of luck to you!

Debby Gray
Education Consultant -- HP  (strange way of calling us instructors...)

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