I find that there is a double standard at work here.  It seems ok to joke of
death, but talk about the three sacred topics and people get out of joint.  That
on to itself is no sweat.

The point that I have a problem with is the threat of talking to ones HR dept.
What is up with that.  Granted, it was stupid and should be ignored.  But to go
after someone's job, that's going too far.  I've been on the wrong end of that
firing line, on trump up reasons.  I resent anyone who would do such a low thing
as to run to a persons HR dept. just because they where offended by something
stated.  GET REAL!!!

I suggest, my friends, that if we are to allow any off topic emails, then we
take the risk of being offended.  For those who are, the writer should be sorry
for the offense.  Then let it go.

The writer, Al Karman, is a friend of mine.  And yeah he says stupid things
sometimes.  But at least when he is sorry, it is from the heart.  Unlike people
who screw with people's livelihoods.


"Proudfoot, Bill" wrote:

> I was impressed by the list's response last week to the Concorde
> 'jokes'  - in that it was ignored ( at least publicly ) that emanated
> from one of your educational establishments ( making the presumption
> that this list is predominantly contributed to by the U.S. ).
>
> I don't want to ruffle anybody's feathers here but the alternatives
> to a society/community where free speech is practised are even more
> abhorrent to me.
>
> Oh ! ... just to offend you all ( sorry ya'll ) I wouldn't know a Democrat
> from a Republican.
>
> Bill
>
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> Fax: +44 (0)151-235-3151
> > *   mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olav Kappert [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 23 August 2000 02:27
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] Code of Conduct
>
> All:
>
> If feel like I need to add my 2 cents Canadian (although it may not be worth
> as
> much as the american cents) to the issue of possible offensive material.
>
> Over the past week, I have been following the postings (all threads) and let
> me
> say, for the most part, it appears that almost everyone is acting with
> respect
> towards
> others and respecting the thread.
>
> Just imagine for a moment, a client from HP, my client, or a future client
> of
> any one of the members on this list, venture into our forum to get an
> understanding of 'What HP means to us'.  Should they see professionalism or
> this
> off-track commentary.  It takes many good people to make a forum, but only
> one
> to destroy it for everybody else.  (Would the readers of WSJ like to see how
> we
> use our forum ?)
>
> How about adopting the following Code of Conduct:
>
>      First, when in doubt, don't post it.  I find this to be a very good
>      rule.  This rule can be broken when you know every single person  in
>      your audience personally.
>
>      Second, lets try to keep comments on politics, religion, race, and sex
>      (in all its forms) off the forum. If a comment must be made, allow the
>      reader the option to click to the web location or receive it by
>      private email.
>
>      Third, if you are not sure that your comment is appropriate, see
>      First.
>
> Let us remember this is an HP3000 forum; let us all be professionals when
> dealing with others, and this applies to our postings.
>
> If there is anyone out there who disagrees with me, please let me know;
> otherwise
> let everybody know.
>
> Olav.
>
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