Hello Denys,
I'm well, and it's good to hear from you.

See http://www.emagazine.com/view/?3661 for just one comment on the ESA.
Also, the Bush administration continually rants against trial 
lawyers, and proposes 'tort reform' - caps on jury awards which serve 
only to protect the businesses which caused the safety problem in the 
first place.  Just one link: 
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/02/27/717/30427

Anyway - there's one thing we can agree on - the HP3000 is still a 
great computer!

All the best,
Connie


>Well Connie, since Bush has only been in office for 7 years this presents
>problems.  Can you even give me one example of raping the environment that a
>Bush presidency has enabled?  And how about a single example of the rights
>of consumer to being infringed with regards to safety and damages?
>
>(I'm not even going to talk about WMDs, they were found, but everyone
>ignores that.)
>
>How have you been by the way.
>
>Denys...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Connie Sellitto [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 2:54 PM
>To: Denys Beauchemin; HP List
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Which is your favorite?
>
>Denys,
>How strange - I took James' comments regarding the 'last 8 years' to
>refer to the Bush administration, and the WMD war in Iraq, the raping
>of the environment in deference to Big Business, the undermining of
>the rights of the American consumer with regard to safety and
>damages...
>
>Perhaps I missed a post?   Anyway, it's always refreshing to read
>what James writes.
>
>Connie
>
>>James, thank you for the great analysis of the damages wrought by the AGW
>>hoax. One can only hope that Algore will be arrested and punished, but as
>>you say, that's not likely to happen.  The other public officials that
>>perpetuated the myth should also be dealt with, but I doubt this will
>occur.
>>
>>The damage inflicted on this country by the perpetuation of this hoax that
>>played on the public's fear, is incalculable.  We are now burning our food
>>supply for fuel because we are absolutely scared to use oil.  We are
>leaving
>>this oil to be drilled for by other countries who do not share our current
>>hysteria.
>>
>>Burning our food supply is leading to massive increases in the price of
>food
>>which will hit women, children and minorities hardest.  This will get even
>>worse as the planet continues to cool down; we are heading for colder,
>>harsher winters, with no capacity to deal with the increase in the need for
>>energy.
>>
>>As people realize the whole thing was a manufactured scare it will be up to
>>us to convince our leaders to get with reality and stop the aberrant
>>behavior.
>>
>>Thanks again, James.
>>
>>Denys...
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>Of James B. Byrne
>>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:45 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Which is your favorite?
>>
>>>   In war, it's never who's right...it's who's left.
>>
>>I venture to say that Europeans in general and the Germans in particular
>>possess a considerable sentiment to the contrary.
>>
>>>   The US is the only country I know that went from barbarism to decadence
>>>   in 200 years and missed out civilization in between.
>>
>>Untrue.  The United States of America is a highly civilized and generally a
>>beneficent member of the community of states.
>>
>>The frightening lesson to be taken from the past eight years of U.S.
>history
>>is that even highly civilized states with considerable systemic protection
>>from aberrant behaviour on the part of public office holders can be led
>into
>>doing terrible and self-destructive acts.  All it requires is enough public
>>hysteria, usually generated by irrational fear, to close ones mind to the
>>enormity of the error one is committing.
>>
>>However, and this is the critical point, all fears eventually pass and in
>>their place ofttimes comes remorse.  In a civilized country, as the USA
>most
>>certainly is, this remorse leads to self-examination, reflection, and
>>eventually the erection of even greater social protections against the whim
>>of
>>emotion.  This is the stage that the U.S. is now entering and those that
>>betrayed their country whilst consumed by the passions of fear will find
>>themselves ever more shunned and marginalized by those who deeply and
>>profoundly regret what has happened.  The guilty may never stand trial, for
>>such is the case with the powerful, but the influence and persuasiveness of
>>their beliefs will diminish.  For many of them, this will be a harsher
>>punishment than any a court could impose.
>>
>>We need only look to the past and consider how in past generations the
>>beliefs
>>professed and treatment meted out by the powerful towards aboriginal
>peoples
>>in the 19-20C; Socialists, Germans and Chinese in the early 20C; Germans
>and
>>Japanese during WWII; Communists in the 1950s; and blacks up to the present
>>day are now widely held in contempt by mainstream society.
>>
>>The mark of a civilized people is not that they never err, but that they
>>learn
>>from those errors.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>
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