Since we are throwing verse out I might add one I found from the LDS faith,
in the Book of Mormon (another testament of JESUS CHRIST).  I think it can
add some clarity to what has been stated previously.

2 Nephi 9:28-29

28. O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties,
and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise,
and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside,
supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness
and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.

29 But to be learned is good if they hearken unto the counsels of God.

Personally I have to laugh at some 'well educated' individuals who lay claim
to be an expert in their field because of their education.  Just look at all
the health studies that have been done in the past.  Some of those studies
have been countered and then re-instated just because of some study.  I'm
very suspicious of any study these days it reminds me of the old saying,
'number never lie, only statistician lie.'

-----Original Message-----
From: Wirt Atmar [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 1:43 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Pledge of Allegiance ? Was church and state


Tim writes:

> Wirt wrote:
>
>  > The term "child-like" seemed to gather the most attention in that
>  previous
>  > posting. Let me stand by that description. I consider it to be
>  relatively
>  > objective. As fundamentalism increases, a stark moral clarity
>  concommitantly
>  > increases (as evidenced by the fundamentalist views on abortion and
>  the death
>  > penalty). In that regard, the former governor of Texas once said that
>  he
>  > never spent a sleepless night worrying about the guilt of the 152
>  people he
>  > executed during his term in office.
>
>  Matthew 18:1-6
>  1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the
>  greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
>  2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of
>  them,
>  3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as
>  little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
>  4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the
>  same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
>  5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
>
>  6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me,
>  it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and
>  that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
>
>  Luke 10:21
>  In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father,
>  Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise
>  and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so
>  it seemed good in thy sight.

1 Corinthians, 13:11: When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood
as
a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish
things.

Wirt Atmar

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