Yes, I used be teach fcopy card Job file to Tape and load that tape to
old 1600 tape drive and push "3"? (last button) 7,8,9,10 so it act like
Job stream device 10. It works like charms..

Cheers
Peter C.
Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
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> Joe Geiser wrote:
> >
> > Hint from a long-time user:
> > The card reader was used, just like it was on older IBM platforms such
> > as the 360 and 370 models, to submit batch jobs.
> >
> > The answer did come out earlier - it was LDEV 10
>
> But the physical reader was generally LDEV#5, although if you spooled a
> :DATA deck (emphasis on "spooled") it appeared as ldev#10 since it was
> redirected to the streams device.  Otherwise, yes, it was ldev#5.
>
> This harps back to pseudo-standard Fortran where the standard I/O
> conventions had you reading from logical unit 5 and writing to logical
> unit 6; thus the convention of reader=5, printer=6.  The latter holds
> unto this day.
>
> I have no clue, however, where the console=ldev20 came from.
>
> Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]>
>