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Ted Ashton <[log in to unmask]>
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Thus it was written in the epistle of Christian Lheureux,
> This may not be totally true. If a person works in the US, under H1B or
> anything else, my best guess is that thisperson has to pay taxes, just like
> a US citizen would do, and at the same rate. Is this correct ?

That's my understanding.  And as far as the IRS is concerned, the government
would like all of us to make (and spend) as much money as possible.

With all due respect to those who are offended by the H1B workers, there are
a few points worth noting:
  1) Each and every one of those H1B workers is successfully living on the
     salary they are getting.  It isn't unthinkable.
  2) The companies may not be hiring H1B's for the sake of lining anyone's
     pocket.  They may, instead, be trying to produce a product cheaply because
     consumers, as we all are, keep wanting more for less.
  3) It's hardly an insult to say that any given choice in business is based
     on the desire to make more money.  Wanting to get more for less is, after
     all, what the whole capitalism thing is about.  I will happily grant the
     foolishness of making that the focus, but that unintelligent, not
     unethical.

Lobby all you want, folks, it's a free country.  But if you want to deal with
the problem:
  1) Learn to live on the salary available--it will take your stress level
     down immensely :-).
  2) Be the best that anyone can get for the price.
  3) Find a company (and they do exist) which treats its workers the way you
     want to be treated.  Take a cut in pay if necessary to get a job there
     and then keep it.
  4) Lobby not just with your congressional representative but also with the
     management of specific companies which are, as far as you are concerned,
     doing what they oughtn't.
  5) Vote with your wallet and let the company know.  After all, that's what
     drives this whole business.

I know that the above don't guarantee anything.  After all, until recently, I
considered HP a fantastic place to work and I'm no longer so sure.  But truth
to tell, changing the rules to put American workers at an advantage doesn't
guarantee anything either and has as many ethics questions regarding it as
does companies hiring non-US citizens.

Christian, if you choose to come to the US to work and need some assistance
making the move, let me know.  We would be honored to have you.

Ted
--
Ted Ashton ([log in to unmask]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University
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A man is like a fraction whose numerator is what he is and whose denominator
is what he thinks of himself. The larger the denominator the smaller the
fraction.
                         -- Tolstoy, [Count] Lev Nikolgevich (1828-1920)
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         Deep thought to be found at http://www.southern.edu/~ashted

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