Somebody I personally know just came back from Iraq. He said that he's
going AWOL before he returns. He's/was MP.

But now it seems like its civilian contractors doing that job and guess
what.
They are outside military jurisdiction and don't have to care about the
geneva convention.
But how can they give orders then to the military?
Seems like Rummy screwed up the military real good.
Weird world



On Tue, 4 May 2004 15:44:39 -0400, Gates, Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Knowing 'Military Intelligence' as well as I do; I'm torn on this issue.
>
>We called them "Spooks" when I was in the Navy and we dreaded the sight of
>them when we WEREN'T actively at war. They made ANY trip miserable.
>
>First, yes, the acts were despicable, but, I suppose useful in encouraging
>captives to divulge useful information.  Not QUITE torturing them, but
>"agressively persuasive".
>
>Second, if the acts WERE authorized by military intelligence, WHY are the
>MP's bearing the consequences?
>
>The commander of the prison has stated that that wing was under the control
>of the Spooks. And the Prison guards claim they were following the orders
of
>the spooks.
>
>The spooks practically invented the old saw "You can't make an omlet,
>without breaking some eggs."  Unfortunately, every time I've ever heard
>about the poor "eggs" they've always been American military dumb enough to
>think they were following orders--and the "chefs" were never punished.
>
>
>
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