In <[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask] writes:

> Our next request, should anyone decide to accept it, (and we first asked
> HP for this in about 1982!) is a way of getting 'Return = Enter in Block
> Mode'.
>
> Training users when to use the Enter key, and when not, is *the* big
> pain with VPLUS.
>
> There are HP terminals that can do 'Return = Enter Y/N', but to toggle
> this, you have to send them a specific escape sequence. To mimic
> 'Return = Enter in Block Mode', you have to know when they are changing
> mode - not always possible or easy.

If you've got source code for the application, you can always write a
simple routine that gets called after you vopen the terminal... and set
it back before the vcloseterm - as well as around any vturnoff/vturnon
calls.

At this point, (1) I doubt the market for dumb terminals would allow many
novel enhancements, and (2) I wouldn't want to deal with modifying code to
look for a new terminal model (not that many people would even buy new dumb
terminals these days).

> Anybody from WRQ listening? Given that a lot of people's 'terminal'
> today is your emulator, how about Reflection doing it? Or maybe it
> already can, and I just don't know how.....

We have the opposite problem. We use Wingspan in alot of cases for data
entry/application screens. These screens LOOK like VPlus screens, but are
operating in character mode doing single-byte character i/o... which reacts
rather badly to a user hitting an "ENTER" key.

While we found there wasn't anything we could do for HP terminals, for users
running Reflection, you can send escape sequences to R1 to remap any keys
on the keyboard... so we remap the ENTER key to generate a RETURN for the
duration of the application.

While sending the HP terminal escape sequence to change return to ENTER would
be easier for you, Reflection can also do it.

> PS If this works, I'm going to ask for 'FIND ALL' in EDIT/3000. Only
> been waiting since MPE III. And yes, I know about the CHANGE "FOO" TO
> "FOO" IN ALL 'workaround'. And no, I don't use EDIT/3000 day to day
> here. But when you go from site to site, you need that lowest common
> denominator as high as possible :-)

Why not pick up QUAD... it's free and it does have a "list all including",
among many other niceties. It's on our web site under the public domain
software area. It'll do nicely til you decide to buy a real editor like
QEDIT. :-)

                   -Chris Bartram


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