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John Pitman <[log in to unmask]>
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John Pitman <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:08:16 +1100
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It is a useful guide to traps for new players, but it wont endear you to the
system.
The 'at' command goes a little way towards handling batch, but it needs lots
of help still, especially with keeping track of stdlist output etc. The
issuing of a job reference no that is subsequently unused seems pointless.
The most irritating thing so far for me is the lack of a real sort.....looks
like we will have to buy something.

jp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Collins" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Temporary files and Unix


> You might be interested in The Unix Hater's Handbook It can be downloaded
in
> pdf format from:
>
> http://research.microsoft.com/~daniel/uhh-download.html
>
> In addition to the things you mentioned there are concepts like fixed
length
> records and file locking that you will have to improvise from the "small
> tools" that are available.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Cummings" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Temporary files and Unix
>
>
> | It is amazing that things we took for granted on the HP3000 (temporary
> | files, Batch jobs, Job queues, spooler, input priority, output priority,
> | jobfence, outfence, jobq limits ...) are absent in UNIX world.  There
> seems
> | to be no serious context for batch processing.
> |
> | Tim
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: Wirt Atmar [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> | Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:04 AM
> | To: [log in to unmask]
> | Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Temporary files and Unix
> |
> |
> | duane writes:
> |
> | > fuser can also be used to 'kill' processes (PID)
> | >  that have a file open. very handy indeed :-)
> | >
> | >  btw, the unix toolbox is way more exciting than
> | >  the mpe toolbox...
> |
> | Yes, that's true, exciting as in the capacity to regressively purge
every
> | file on the system. If you crave excitement, that's the ticket.
> |
> | Wirt Atmar
> |
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