Matthew writes:

> As I said, you as a group either agree to the terms of having the
> discussions or you don't have the discussions, period. That does not mean
> the discussions are not taking place.

If you adopt that position, that of a supplicant at the feet of HP, you've
lost before you have begun.


> Everyone remaining on this list is in some way appreciative of MPE and
wants
> see it continue past HP's exit from the MPE marketplace 12-31-2006. As such
> some seem to feel that *they* own MPE - after all, we've used it all these
> years, it belongs to the community - incorrect, the community doesn't own
> MPE, HP does.

That's not quite true. I've said before, and I'll say again now, I lay claim
to owning b-trees in IMAGE and advanced telnet for MPE, as well as substantial
part ownership regarding critical item update capabilities in IMAGE. Other
users, whose names are well-known, can equally claim other parts of MPE. Those
items, and all of the work encompassing them, were freely given to HP for the
common good of the community, at a time when that community consisted of both
the users and CSY.

Wirt Atmar

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