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I did not think that the jobs counted toward the user limit of the server.

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Larry Simonsen                Phone: 801-489-2450
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 -----Original Message-----
From:   Emerson, Tom # El Monte [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:40 PM
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Subject:        Re: sendmail, inetd, & other background jobs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: VANCE,JEFF (HP-Cupertino,ex1) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>
> Tom Emerson wrote:
> > I'd rather not tie up my job limit with this if I don't have to...
>
> In 6.0, User-defined job queues are in FOS any may help with this
> aspect.

Do these "user defined" queues circumvent the hard-and-fast limit on total
jobs & sessions? [rhetorical question, I know...]  On a "small" machine with
a low user-limit license, having 5 or 6 "extra" jobs that are idle 90% of
the time BUT "need to be there" should anything be required of the system
can seriously cut into "production", if you know what I mean.

JINETD takes care of most of the "typcial" services, but before this came
along you'd need to run jftpmon, jhttpd, jtelnetd, jdaemon [sendmail], and
backg [security] (or any other 3rd party logon/security
monitoring/enforcement) as seperate jobs.  Not to mention other "3rd party"
server jobs such as facade, qedit-for-windows, any "odbc" listener, and who
knows what else...

throw an OPERATOR.SYS logon in there and your 8-user license only allows for
2 real logons at that point...

[yes, this is getting extreme -- by the time this happens, you won't need
backg anymore since nobody can log on anyway ;) ]

Seriously, though, these "server" processes need to detach from a
"job/session" and simply "exist", much like they do in a unix environment
[surprise surprise...]

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