Not to mention that HP employee moral is higher than ever: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011107/tc/hp_sabotage_1.html especially now that pay raises are delayed: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20011107/tc/hp_suspends_pay_raises_during_sl ump_1.html * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *