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Jim Mc Coy <[log in to unmask]>
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I just heard on the radio this morning that yesterday a hospital in FL put up a sign that says "watch where you're cutting" after a surgeon drilled the wrong side of a patients head in preperation for brain surgery.
They did not say the name of the hospital.

jm

>
> From: NTC John Pitman <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2002/03/07 Thu AM 10:34:42 EST
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
>
> Yes, there is even a word for injuries caused by doctors - iatrogenic.
> jp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Tracy Pierce
> Sent: Wed, March 06, 2002 11:08 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> Sensitivity: Confidential
>
>
> at which link you'll immediately notice that it claims 250,000 people are
> killed by doctors each year.  that's broken down into large categories, the
> largest of which is 80,000 killed by infections occurring in hospitals (and
> notice that the footnote hyperlink takes you to a completely unrelated
> paper).
>
> That means the doctor kills you by putting you in the hospital, right?
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Barnes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:47 AM
> > To: Tracy Pierce; [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> > Sensitivity: Confidential
> >
> >
> > look at:
> >
> > http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tracy Pierce [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:41 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> > Sensitivity: Confidential
> >
> >
> > did you just make that up?  of course not.  who what's your source?
> >
> > Tracy
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Mc Coy [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:26 AM
> > > To: Tracy Pierce; [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> > > Sensitivity: Confidential
> > >
> > >
> > > Every year in the U.S. more than 100,000 people die as a
> > > direct result of mistakes made by doctors.
> > > In addition to that, thousands more are injured/maimed.
> > > Surgical patients get the wrong organs removed, the wrong
> > > lims amputated.  There are also those who end up going in for
> > > something like a tonsilectomy and get a leg amputated because
> > > someone mixed the charts up.
> > >
> > > jm
> > > >
> > > > From: Tracy Pierce <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Date: 2002/03/06 Wed AM 11:16:17 EST
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: 100 Years
> > > >
> > > > I rather doubt that RNader said "killed by doctors".  It
> > > would be a valid
> > > > and inflammatory statistic to point out that huge numbers
> > > of people die when
> > > > "in the care of doctors", but I don't know if that's
> > > Nader's style or not.
> > > >
> > > > More people should emulate Woody Allen's immortality ploy:
> > > don't die!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Guy HPTraderOnline [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:41 AM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Re: OT: 100 Years
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I just went to a talk on Homeopathic medicine last night.
> > > > > The speaker said
> > > > > that at the turn of the last century, you could get a
> > > > > homeopathic health kit
> > > > > in the Sears catalog.  The AMA convinced politicians that
> > > > > they were the
> > > > > going concern and every other attempt at healing amounted to
> > > > > quackery.  I
> > > > > heard a while ago, Ralph Nader said that more people are
> > > > > killed each year by
> > > > > doctors than the total number of American soldiers who died
> > > > > in the Vietnam
> > > > > Conflict.
> > > > >
> > > > > Guy
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Andreas Schmidt" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ninety percent of all U.S. Physicians  had no college
> > education.
> > > > > Instead, they attended medical schools,  many of which were
> > > > > > condemned in the press and by the government as
> > "substandard."
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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