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Hi Michael :)
     Corporal Punishment is a tenet of Catholic school pretty much
everywhere I am told... But have to take the "Better Half's" word for it...
since I started school in a private Protestant school... which had corporal
punishment... My Kindergarten teacher remarked in her Retirement Dinner
about 8 or so years ago... that she still remembers how my best friend and
I set and still hold! the record for the fastest trip to the Principal's
office for swats!  Half an hour after the start of the first day of
kindergarten!    'Course Mike and I have been best friends ever since 1969
as a result... (yep I be young'un!)  I personally think that I got sent to
the principals office way too much... my Dad thinks not enough ... hehehe
I switched to a public school in 4th grade...  interesting...

    And no... my family isn't and wasn't rich.... just practiced the
"Depression" kind of financial planning that Shawn eluded to earlier... If
you ain't got the money and it ain't life and death?  you ain't got it!
Dad taught my sister and I the value of a buck through allowances and extra
jobs and chores if we needed extra money... Dad likes to point out that 50%
success rate ain't bad when rais'n kids!  My sister at best has held a
MacD's job for a year or two... then back to the government roles...

    Remember, the Founding Fathers didn't believe and didn't found the
country on Education being a right... it was something you earned...
Secretary of State and Former General Colin Powell started life in New York
in the Public Schools... in the not so great part of New York... He said
hard work and family got him thru...

    As for college?  Yah... it is expensive... I went to a small Christian
college in Idaho ... and Dad gave me Freshman year paid for to any school
in the world as my High School graduation gift... He said after that he
would loan me whatever he could to help me ... but that I would best do
some "working and earning"!  I did... and Thanks to GSL's and a $500
scholarship... I made it through... 'tho the English Department of NNC does
consider me to be one of their failures based on my grammar and spelling
abilities or lack thereof! hehehehe

    The elementary and High school level education in America is in
trouble... but not beyond hope or repair... and alot of people are working
on it... but the biggest thing I see missing, in my opinion, is the
teaching of the basics... too much social agenda and not enough math,
sciences and English... And if we get back to teaching the kids at home
that education is the most important thing maybe some other things will
improve.

   I don't know about the European schools... but I do know that I pay for
the local schools in my area of Oregon... even tho' I will never have any
children attending them... and I don't gripe because the schools provide a
way for the kids who will run society after I am gone to learn...

Art "just ramblin' thots :) " Bahrs

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>Shawn you are correct, Herr Baier lives on a planet that I would not
>even want to visit.  :-)
>
>Denys
>
The planet is calles US of A.
I want to send my kids to school. Remember the program "no kids left
behind". Seems like all kids where left where we live. No school meets the
standard and has not for so many years. Tried to put my kids in a private
school (catholic). First letter I get was that the teachers and principal
can beat my kids if they think its necessary. I send a letter back for
permission to beat the teachers and principal whenever I think it is
needed. They never answered. Wonder why.
So, I guess we move. Either a bigger city or back to Europe.
At least the kids there get a free education and not based on the amount of
money the parents can spend. Even the colleges and universities are
affordable, unlike in the great USofA.
Of course, a president that needs $150 billions for Iraq and has no money
for education thats just what this great country needs.
So much easier to deal with stupid people. They follow so easy, the don't
ask critical questions. Plus they make good stupid soldiers that just
follow orders and never ask "WHY".
So the few rich and educated can use the majority of un-educated.
Sounds familiar?

About the finances, ask around the working people how many can afford a
loss of income for how long before they fall so far behind in payments that
they start loosing houses. Don't know too many that can do that for more
then a few months. If you can, count yourself lucky.
Seems you and the GWB live on the same distant planet and that's why you
are oh so wrong.

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