Gary,

The Hole might be big, but you might not need to spend anymore money.  If
you are already NOT using ldev1 for the databases, and you should not be
using it for anything other than system things anyway, for performance
reasons; then there already exists a split in the disc usage.  All that
making a separate volume would do is make that split more structured and
force the system to adhere to it. (It also increases the recoverability of
the system)

If you are using ldev1 pretty heavily for other things than system
tasks...well, good luck.  You end up paying one way or another.  Either you
get by on shoestrings and you spend a good amount of time, (which can be
related directly to $'s), recovering and you risk loosing some transactions
OR you spend a little money upfront and/or shuffle things around a little in
order to make things fit into a better, more recoverable running model.

Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Nolan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 10:41 AM
> To:   Newman, Kevin:; [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re:      Re: Image log files
>
> Thanks folks
> I love all the ideas. Were we only have 6 gig and about 20% is all that is
> free I am afraid that splitting 5 gig into a private volume would not
> leave
> me with enough free disc space. The main course of action is to spend $$$
> to
> do something, but the way money is around here....... You know the
> expression when you lose money your in the hole. I our case the hole is
> deeper than you could ever imaging.
>
> Thanks
> Gary Nolan
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Newman, Kevin: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Image log files
>
>
> > I thought that this was the exact reason to setup different volumes,
> just
> to
> > protect your data so that a hardware failure wouldn't wipe you out.
> >
> > If you have a separate volume for your databases and you loose ldev 1,
> can't
> > you just re-create/re-build/restore ldev 1 or do you still loose that
> other
> > volume when ldev 1 goes away?
> >
> > Kevin "I thought that I knew how it worked!?!" Newman
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: Gary Nolan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> >  Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 8:53 AM
> >  To:   [log in to unmask]
> >  Subject:      Re: Image log files
> >
> > > This is the kind of mess we already got into. We have our logfiles on
> ldev
> >  1
> >  and the data bases split among the other 3 drives. We have only a small
> >  947
> >  with 2 1gig and 2 2gig drives and no private volumes. When we lost ldev
> 1
> >  the logfiles were clobbered and the data bases are on the other drives
> >  cannot be recovered when you have no ldev1 (catch 22). Paranoid me
> having
> >  been burnt once by this does not intend to burnt again.
> >  While I have implemented the copying to PC procedure for now, I  am
> still
> >  not happy with it and hope somebody will let us spend the $$ on a raid
> >  solution.
> >  If anybody has a way to allow me to open the logfile and pull records
> from
> >  it as they are  written to it  I would be interested to hear how to do
> >  this.
> >
> > > Gary Nolan
> >
> >
> >
> >