Craig you and I have chatted about this before. Minisoft would be
interested in supporting this environment with our MPE middleware and
connectivity solutions.
Thanks,
Doug Greenup
Minisoft
www.minisoft.com
> It would be interesting to hear from other software vendors.
>
> Is this an environment that they would be interested in supporting?
>
> -Craig
>
> --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Jennifer Fisher <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> From: Jennifer Fisher <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: MPE on Intel hardware, thank you Stromasys
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 3:22 AM
>
> I believe this to be correct. As with most software, technically it
> should run, you just need to ensure you are not in breach of any software
> license agreements. As a reseller of most of the technology that runs on
> the HPe3k I'm sure most companies would just require a license transfer
> fee to continue using the software on the new hardware.
>
> Jennifer.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Denys Beauchemin
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:16 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] MPE on Intel hardware, thank you Stromasys
>
> Technically, there is no reason why Speedware, Powerhouse or any other
> application would not work on the emulator. This is not an emulation of
> the
> OS, but rather an emulation of the PA-RISC architecture.
>
> What about the good old HPSUSAN? Read the line above.
>
> We also understand about having it done 7 or 8 years ago. In fact it is a
> very long story, but that's neither here nor there. It is imminent now
> and
> I would think this is good news for the homesteaders with hardware that is
> on its last legs. It will also be very useful for those who have migrated
> but still need to have access to old data; this technology provides for a
> simple method to access the archived data.
>
> Please remember that the OS is frozen in time, it is 7.5 circa 2004 (?)
> and
> it is not being developed further but everything that it can do on an
> HP3000, it can do on the emulator. A migration away from the HP3000 is
> still the best long term path, but the emulator presents a viable
> long-term
> method to remain on MPE without worrying about aging disk drives and tape
> drives.
>
> Denys
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Gary Stephens
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] MPE on Intel hardware, thank you Stromasys
>
> Hi Craig
>
> couple of questions from the hip, has anyone tried, powerhouse, speedware,
> etc?
> What about the good old HPSUSAN
> I have a number of clients where I have archived their apps of onto one of
> my boxes and now provide access as and when, but still do a small amount
> of
> development work.
> Interesting times, and not looking to put a downer on any of this as its
> truly great news, but its a shame this could not have been done 7 or 8
> years
> ago, instead of providing homesteading, I could have been developing more.
> Cheers
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion on behalf of Craig Lalley
> Sent: Wed 28/09/2011 12:05 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] MPE on Intel hardware, thank you Stromasys
>
> Art,
>
> The great job belongs to Stromasys. They have 10years plus experience in
> writing hardware emulators, VAX, PDP, etc...
>
> What Stromasys did not know, is how the MPE system works and how to
> configure it.
>
> That is where we helped.
>
> But it is amazing. I have worked on every Model of HP3000 from the Series
> 3, to an N-class 750-8 way. Now, I can boot MPE on my laptop. I find
> that amazing.
>
> -Craig
>
> --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Bahrs, Art <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Bahrs, Art <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RE: MPE on Intel hardware, thank you Stromasys
> To: "'Craig Lalley'" <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 4:00 PM
>
> Hi Craig :)
> WOW!!! Great job to you and Denys and Paul!!!
>
> Art "Really Impressed" Bahrs
>
> Art Bahrs, CISSP
> Security Engineer (Oregon Region)
> (503) 216-2722
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Craig Lalley
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: MPE on Intel hardware, thank you Stromasys
>
> First off, the HP3000 reunion was a wonderful time. It was appropriately
> held at the computer history museum.
>
> I am not sure if I should put a plug alert here. This is probably the
> most
> on-topic discussion in months.
>
> On
> Friday for the Camus group and Saturday morning for the HP3000 group, I
> had the honor of demo'ing a working MPE 7.5 system on Intel hardware.
> The rumors are true, my laptop boots MPE.
>
> Stromasys has created a
> working PA-RISC emulator. The emulator recreates PA-RISC architecture
> in
> software. What this means is that I take a raw disk
> image (bit by bit copy) of a working HP3000 system. I then transfer that
> file to my laptop. If the disk is 9gb it will be a 9gb image. If it is
> an
> 18gb disk, the end result is an 18gb file. Currently the system needs to
> be
> running MPE 7.5 or in theory MPE 7.0.
>
> The emulator starts at an ISL> prompt. It takes approximately 2 minutes
> and 30 seconds for MPE to boot to a colon prompt.
>
>>From that point on the system is solid. I can compile, run FSCHECK,
>> stream
> jobs, and block mode works.
>
> Stromasys has announced they will begin shipping the first version of this
> product in January.
>
> My goal is to find limited field test sites for smaller systems. The
> first
> version will only support a single CPU.
>
> I know there are going to be questions, so feel free to send them and I
> will
> do my best.
>
> I have been working with Denys Beauchemin and Paul Edwards on this. I am
> sure Denys and Paul will be happy to pitch in as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Craig Lalley
>
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