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Robert Liesenfeld <[log in to unmask]>
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Robert Liesenfeld <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 19 May 2023 16:22:07 -0700
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I dug out my copy of Reflection 1 for Windows 3.1 and there was a disk with
the Command Language Reference Manual.  Unfortunately, it's in the original
Windows Help format, which is no longer supported on Windows 10 and above.
I was able to follow these instructions to get winhlp32.exe to work on
Windows 10, but it's not trivial:

https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/view-winhelp-hlp-files-windows-10-with-winhlp32-exe/

I've uploaded an image of the floppy to Archive.org here
https://archive.org/details/r1win-clm

Since mounting a floppy image on Windows can be a bit of a pain, the files
are available here, including the decompressed .hlp files
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xx5qj2jl54uqqnl/AABRbJ7Gn1yAdGKBFBdAr-cOa?dl=0

Finally, I looked through the docs to find how to turn off compression, and
the command appears to be SET COMPRESSION NONE, with the alternatives being
HUFFMAN (the default) and RUN-LENGTH.  Below is the full text of the SET
COMPRESSION help page.

The default value is HUFFMAN.
> File compression speeds up file transfers. Huffman compression uses more
> processing power on the host and the local computer, but compresses most
> effectively. For most users, HUFFMAN is recommended. Users with a very fast
> datacomm link or less computing power might prefer to use RUN-LENGTH or
> NONE. You can try comparing the transfer time using different types of
> compression.
> Compression is not always appropriate. For example, if you use Reflection
> compression to transfer a file that's already in a compressed format, you
> can slow the transfer.
> Note:  If the FAST-FILE-XFER parameter is set to YES, and if applicable
> protocol software (such as the 3000 Connection, NS Connection, or LAT
> Connection) and an applicable network connection (such as Ethernet or Token
> Ring) are present, then Reflection attempts to do fast file transfers.  If
> a fast file transfer takes place, the COMPRESSION parameter is ignored.
>
> ® 1993-94 Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc.
>

Since this talks about the FAST-FILE-XFER parameter, here's the text of
that help page as well...

The default value is YES.
> Relevant only when your host connection is through a network using the LAT
> or NS/VT protocol. Reflection supports these protocols through the
> Reflection Network Series, from Walker Richer & Quinn; LAT support is also
> available through Digital's PATHWORKS.
> This parameter specifies whether Reflection should attempt to use the fast
> file transfer feature. With this feature, you can move files between your
> PC and the host many times faster than with the standard file transfer
> protocol.
> When fast file transfer is in effect, the following parameters are ignored
> during file transfers:
> SET COMPRESSION
> SET TRANSFER-END-CHAR
> SET TRANSFER-EXTRA-CHARS
> SET TRANSFER-FRAME-SIZE
> SET TRANSFER-PRESENTATION
> SET TRANSFER-START-CHAR
> SET TRANSFER-WINDOW-SIZE
>
> If you set the TRACE or CAPTURE parameter to YES when fast file transfer
> is in effect, you won't be able to capture the actual flow of data. If you
> run VAXLINK2 with the L parameter, a host log file is not created.
> It may be necessary to set this parameter to NO for sending ASCII files
> with records larger than 32767 bytes. The transfer will fail and Reflection
> will display an error message if this is necessary.
>
> ® 1993-94 Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc.
>

On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 3:48 PM Michel Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> And I didn't see anything in bitsavers.org.
>
> Oh well, just one more thing to scan before the heat death of the universe
> ...
>
> j-m
>
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 15:24, Robert Liesenfeld <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I have a complete box copy of Reflection 1 for Windows 3.1, including
>> documentation, but it’s in another location.  Next time I’m there (this
>> week sometime) I’ll grab it, and I can take photos of specific pages as
>> requested.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 14:22 Michel Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have had some luck using archive.org to track down pages from broken
>>> links.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20201019233301/https://support.microfocus.com/kb/doc.php?id=7022686#
>>>
>>>
>>> In this case, for the RCL documentation, I think the problem might be
>>> that
>>> they stopped officially supporting RCL before they started providing
>>> documentation in PDF form.
>>>
>>> Maybe the vendor can be of assistance?
>>>
>>> Otherwise, it's going to have to be Ebay to the rescue:
>>>
>>> This item seems to be old enough that it might have a paper copy of the
>>> RCL
>>> documentation:
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/363377179462
>>>
>>> Better contact the seller first to find out.
>>>
>>> j-m
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 13:47, Keven Miller (3kG) <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > You can find Reflection documentation at Microfocus (or OpenText).
>>> > Here is a starting link:
>>> > https://support.microfocus.com/manuals/reflection.html?prod=RNSVT
>>> >
>>> > Programming Resources has
>>> >   Visual Basic pdf.
>>> >   Programming Reference - Reflection for HP, Unix....    This has
>>> > Reflection
>>> > Basic info
>>> >   Additional Programming Resources -- link does not work - missing
>>> document
>>> >
>>> > Then browse search for "reflection macro command" shows this
>>> >    https://docs.attachmate.com/reflection/14.0/vbug.pdf    Reflection
>>> > Basic
>>> >
>>> > Didn't find any reference to the RCL and like commands.
>>> >
>>> > Keven Miller
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Stanfield, Randy (Carrollton, TX)"
>>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > Sent: Tue 16 May 2023 01:52 PM
>>> > Subject: [HP3000-L] Reflections RCL commands
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have a digital version of a Reflections manual or the list
>>> of
>>> > HOST commands for doing File transfer?
>>> >
>>> > We have some menus doing download to the PC from the host. But with VPN
>>> > and
>>> > or Zscaller Apps for Security we need to turn off data compression.
>>> Trying
>>> > to automate in the commands issued from the host.
>>> >
>>> > REFLECT command ?
>>> > RCL command ?
>>> >
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