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I see your point.

It's a bit like the Kyoto stupidity that aims to force the signatories to
reduce their emission of CO2 into the atmosphere to levels lower than 1990.
It appears that signing the protocol makes you a good person, even if you
have no intention of meeting your obligations.  At this time, it seems the
only country which has drastically reduced its CO2 emissions is the USA,
which thankfully did not sign on to the farce in the first place.  (But we
do get blamed for every meteorological event.)

I was checking recently into exactly what constitutes greenhouse gases, what
the effect of greenhouse gases is and how much CO2 is being emitted by
humans and came to realize the following (and I am happy to be corrected :) 

The Earth in its current orbit would be 30 degrees Celsius colder if it were
not for the presence of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.  The most
important greenhouse gas is water vapor, good old H20, which makes up to 4%
of the atmosphere.  This water vapor accounts for about 95% of the 30
degrees mentioned earlier and water vapor is twice as efficient as CO2 in
its role as a greenhouse gas.  Carbon Dioxide accounts for about 0.03% of
the atmosphere.

Further, man-produced CO2 accounts for about 0.02% of the total CO2 found in
the atmosphere.  So, 2% of the 0.03% amounts to 0.0006% of the 5% of the
warming of the atmosphere or 0.00003% of the 30 degrees Celsius above what
the temperature would be without greenhouse gases.

0.00003% of 30 degrees, that's 0.0009 degrees.  Yep, it's time to panic.

I think the scores of billions of dollars to be wasted on Kyoto would indeed
be better spent looking for heat from the Moon, it's a cold universe out
there.

Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Shahan, Ray
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:08 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: I love global warming!

No, no, no *you* don't understand.  GWB wouldn't be responsible for
restoring the Sun's output level, he'd be responsible for the "no bid
contract" for Halliburton to restore the Sun's output level.  And if you
play the scenario out, Halliburton would spend several years and
billions of dollars trying to get heat from the moon.

8-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Denys Beauchemin [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:59 AM
To: Shahan, Ray; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] OT: I love global warming!

No, no, no.  You don't understand.  If GWB were to restore the Sun's
output
level, that would be good for humanity and we can't have that.  Don't
you
realize that everything GWB does is bad for humanity or the planet, most
times both.

Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf
Of Shahan, Ray
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:30 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: I love global warming!

Denys reports: " Scientist predicts 'mini Ice Age'
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia, Feb. 7 (UPI) -- A Russian astronomer has
predicted
that Earth will experience a "mini Ice Age" in the middle of this
century,
caused by low solar activity. <snip>".

And then Denys adds " I bet you GWB is behind the plot to reduce the
Sun's output."

Hmmmm, I don't think GWB would be behind that kind of a plot, but on the
other hand, I could see GWB giving a "no bid contract" to Halliburton to
restore the sun's output level.

8-)


Have a great week!

Ray Shahan

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