> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP3000-L 
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 1998 12:39 PM
> To: HP3000-L
> Cc: jgeiser
> Subject: Re: Quotes & WinMail.DAT
> 
> 
> Here's what I hope is a solution to those folks using a 
> Microsoft Mailer -
> the ones that produce the WINMAIL.DAT file (which, by the 
> way, *is* the RTF
> format of the message and any attachments - yes - any files 
> you send are
> attached to the RTF file and not accessible to those who use 
> plain text
> mailers).
> 
> It's real simple...  Create an entry in the address book for 
> HP3000-L (and
> anyone else you correspond with which needs only text), and 
> ensure that the
> "Send with RTF" is Unchecked.  This will ensure that all 
> messages are sent
> as Plain Text (even though it may appear as RTF on your screen).
> 
> If it's a one-time thing, while the message is open, click 
> File/Properties
> in the message menu, and uncheck the "Send as Microsoft RTF..." on the
> property sheet - and the message will be sent as plain text.
> 
> Plain text is denoted in a MS Mailer as using a Fixed Font 
> like Courier, and
> the default for RTF is Arial.  If you reply to an HP3000-L 
> message that
> comes in as text, then it will go back out as Plain Text.  If 
> it comes in as
> RTF, it will go back out as RTF (except for Outlook 98, which 
> will ask if
> that HP3000-L entry is set up in your address book).
> 
> Hope this helps.  Since most HP3000-L users use plain text 
> mailers, posts
> should be sent in plain text.  I've been just as guilty in this too -
> usually when I put up a beta copy and all my settings get 
> hosed in some way
> or another... but I always set them back when I catch wind of 
> the problem).
> 
> Best Regards,
> Joe
> 
> Joe Geiser
> CSI Business Solutions, LLC
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> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> > Behalf Of John D. Alleyn-Day
> > Sent: Saturday, May 09, 1998 4:05 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Quotes & WinMail.DAT
> >
> >
> > Lars Appel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > >Okay, if I had one or two wishes in regard to eMail and standards,
> > >then I'd love to see many, most or all people responding 
> to a posting
> > >reduce the quoted parts of the original messages to only those few
> > >passages that are essential and not append a verbatim copy 
> of the old
> > >message (which makes reading the list or even list digest 
> a pain and
> > >wastes a lot of bandwith -- just like this "rant" does ;-)
> >
> > I second this strongly.  I get the list in digest form and 
> the messages
> > with a quoted message that includes another quoted message 
> (ad infinium et
> > nauseam) make the digest almost incomprehensible.  This is 
> particularly
> > diabolical when the address and signature are all quoted, because
> > one finds
> > oneself reading the same message over and over again and 
> not able to find
> > the one or two lines of new stuff.  The divisions between 
> messages become
> > indistinguishable, especially as some of these programs put 
> the quoted
> > message at the beginning and some at the end!
> >
> > I understand that there are e-mail programs that won't 
> allow you to edit
> > the quoted text. It's incomprehensible to me that anyone would
> > pay out good
> > money for such an inadequate piece of junk.
> >
> > John D. Alleyn-Day
> > Alleyn-Day International
> > 408-286-6421   408-286-6474 (Fax)
> > [log in to unmask]       http://www.Alleyn-Day.com
> > "The man that never made a mistake never made anything"
> >
>