I think HP policy on this issue was set several years back when Harry S was
at HP in charge of the HP3000. You can reread about it a back issue of
HPWORLD (i think) that did an interview with Harry when he retired.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Darnell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 1:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
I do have some personal interest in the legal points below, and I do feel
they are important and should be discussed openly. I was interested,
however, to note what I see as a major shift in HP's corporate culture over
the years (or decades). I am curious as to how much of this shift is due to
Carly individually, how much due to the new blood in general, and how much
due to political pressures to which Corporate America seems to be responding
in an amazingly uniform manner.
You are right that some of the passages were from Mosaic law. Also about
false pride. I just can't find the URL for that news article.
Tolerance today seems to be interpreted quite differently depending on which
side of which fence....!
-Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stigers, Greg [And] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:00 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
>
>
> X-no-Archive:yes
> Except right now, the law is struggling to define whether
> such speech is
> limited, or protected by the first amendment. Not a few have
> argued that the
> broadness of some of the harassment laws violate free speech.
>
> Since one of those passages most likely included the Mosaic
> prescriptions
> against male homosexuality (aside from the not inconsiderable issue of
> whether sacred scripture is appropriate material for a poster, right,
> Joseph?), the issues become deeper than simply free speech,
> but also freedom
> of religious expression.
>
> Also, was HP creating a hostile work place by putting up
> posters that would
> seem to actively promote a lifestyle with which many of the
> major religions
> historically have some issue? Note, it wasn't two guys in a "committed
> monogamous relationship", which is closer to where some of the major
> religions are that do not disapprove of homosexuality. And it
> does seem
> intended to state an official approval (which I understand to be HP's
> position), in a rather "in your face" way.
>
> At another company, a manager felt it was OK to say in jest
> that another
> employee was taking time off to "perform his good Christian duty",
> delivering Thanksgiving food baskets to his communities
> disadvantaged (a
> controversial act of religious faith if there ever was one).
> Is speech in
> the workplace free? Is it free for the employee? Is it free
> for the company?
> I wonder if the fired employee will sue, if so, for what, and what the
> outcome would be?
>
> Maybe I should post, tagged as off-topic, what happened
> decades ago when my
> dad was in the Air Force, and wrote Happy Hanukah on the
> chalkboard in the
> Christmas-decorated lunch room...
>
> Greg Stigers
> http://www.cgiusa.com
> it's a tough issue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Rosenblatt [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fiorina, Carly, personal political orientation?
>
> So then this post should not have been * Fiorina, Carly,
> personal political
> orientation?* but rather * Fiorina, Carly, does her company
> follow the law?*
>
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