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Larry Barnes <[log in to unmask]>
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How do you know they work great?  How do you know if your vote was counted.
According to the national news between 6-10% of these voter cards are not counted
do to errors.

John Painter wrote:

> Wirt:
>
> We use the same machine in some areas of NJ-- they ARE great, although
> I'm not sure how the count is transferred from each machine to the
> central authorities.
>
> John Painter
> ---------------------------
>
> Wirt Atmar wrote:
> >
> > Driven by a deep and abiding faith that you can find anything on the web
> > nowadays, I've spent the last 24 hours trying to find the manufacturer of the
> > voting machines that Mike Church and I described in somewhat glowing terms
> > yesterday.
> >
> > However, there are times when a web search becomes exceedingly difficult, as
> > it did in this instance: there are tens of thousands of local electoral board
> > web pages *discussing* voting machines, virtually all of them without
> > reference to the brand names of the products they use. Because of that
> > fruitlessness, I was ready to throw in the towel trying to find the original
> > manufacturer's web page. Ultimately, what allowed me to find the proper
> > manufacturer was by my going to AltaVista and doing a web search on *images*
> > of voting machines.
> >
> > Given my difficulties in finding this information, I now humbly submit that
> > everyone immediately drop what you're doing and click on:
> >
> >      http://www.spve.com/products/avc_advantage.html
> >
> > All kidding aside, this is a very well designed instrument, and I am
> > impressed by it. Indeed, it has won several design awards. The AVC Advantage
> > voting machine was introduced in 1988, and to the best of my rememberances,
> > that's just about how long we've been using them here locally. Because of the
> > nature of the machine's design, none of the contentious arguments about
> > pregnant- and dimpled-chad or overpunching that are now raging in Florida can
> > occur with this device.*
> >
> > Sequoia Pacific, the company that makes these devices, has just now released
> > a replacement model, this time based on a touch-screen CRT:
> >
> >      http://www.spve.com/products/avc_edge.html
> >
> > that is supposed to be even easier and more certain to use.
> >
> > Given the public attention that has been given to the failure of the punched
> > paper ballot over the past week, no matter its form, if Sequoia Pacific were
> > a publicly traded company (and I find no information that suggests that they
> > are), it would very likely be a very good investment over the next few years.
> >
> > You can't publicity for the argument for better voting methods than that that
> > has occurred during the last week.
> >
> > Wirt Atmar
> >
> > *However, that doesn't preclude other forms of screw-ups. The county clerk
> > for the Dona Ana County, New Mexico, where I reside, just found a tabulating
> > error in a state-wide recount. As that recount was proceeding, Bush slowly
> > crept ahead, first 4 votes up, then 17, and ultimately finishing with a
> > decisive 126 votes. And then, just last night, they found that the 600 votes
> > for Gore in one precinct here right here in Las Cruces had been transcribed
> > and written down as 100, one person not being able to read another's writing.
> > So, it now appears that New Mexico is firmly back in Gore's column, winning
> > the state in a landslide, with 375 votes.

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Larry Barnes
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Phoenix, AZ 85040

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