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"If you do a total cost of ownership, the mainframe comes out cheaper, but
since the costs of a mainframe are immediately obvious, it is hard to get it
past the bean-counters of an organization."

Funny, I said essentially the same thing to someone at hp about mpe.  The
recipient's eyes flew open like I had said the most amazing thing ever
heard.  I'm not a "bean counter" but it was sooooo obvious that this was the
case...and yet this had never occurred to this very well-educated hp'er
<sigh><alas>

But anyhow...tis true -- it can be very very hard to replace legacy apps
(for a multitude of reasons) and some people just can't/won't get that.
- d

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Donna Hofmeister
Allegro Consultants, Inc.
408-252-2330


> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Tracy Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:33 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] HP3000 Workers Chances Improving?
> 
> >From Slashdot last night.  Presume the hidden cost of letting HP3000
> workers go way back may also apply here.
> 
> (I think the original poster should have put 'not' before
> 'immediately'.)
> 
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | Retired Mainframe Pros Lured Back Into Workforce                   |
> |   from the come-back-so-we-can-fire-you-again dept.                |
> |   posted by ScuttleMonkey on Friday July 10, @18:22 (Businesses)   |
> |   http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/10/200204            |
> +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
> 
> [0]itwbennett writes "Businesses that cut experienced mainframe
> administrators in an effort to cut costs inadvertently created a skills
> shortage that is coming back to bite them. Chris O'Malley, CA's
> mainframe business executive VP, says that mainframe workers were let
> go
> because 'it had no immediate effect and the organizations didn't expect
> to keep mainframes around.' But businesses have kept mainframes around
> and now they are [1]struggling to find engineers. Prycroft Six managing
> director Greg Price, a mainframe veteran of some 45 years, put it this
> way:  'Mainframes are expensive, ergo businesses want to go to cheaper
> platforms, but [those platforms] have a lot of packaged overheads. If
> you do a total cost of ownership, the mainframe comes out cheaper, but
> since the costs of a mainframe are immediately obvious, it is hard to
> get it past the bean-counters of an organization.'"
> 
> Discuss this story at:
>     http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=09/07/10/200204
> 
> Links:
>     0. http://www.itworld.com/
>     1. http://www.itworld.com/%5Bprimary-term%
> 5D/70886/retired-mainframe-pros-lured-back-workforce
> 
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