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Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:57:56 -0600
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Nothing to see here.  As far as I'm concerned, this is a good size; when
MPE/iX reads the disk, it will pick up a number of 4kbyte pages, and each of
these pages will have 4 of these MPE record, 4 IMAGE records.  I forget how
many pages MPE picks up at one time,(age and mileage do take their toll,)
but this is ok.

Denys...
-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Jim Phillips
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:25 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Howmessy

Sorry for the delay...
   
  FO SETS from QUERY:
   
              ITEM  CURRENT ENTRY ENTRY BLOCKING
  SETS: TYPE COUNT CAPACITY COUNT LENGTH FACTOR
  PNM     M    117    24859 19385 349      1
   
   
  LISTF,2:
   
  FILENAME  CODE ------------LOGICAL RECORD----------- ----SPACE----
                 SIZE TYP EOF  LIMIT R/B               SECTORS #X MX
  MMSDB101* PRIV 512W FB 24859 24859 1                   99440  1 *
  
 
  Let the fray continue.....
   
   
  Jim
Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  Before you change the capacity, could you at least tell us the size of the
IMAGE record and maybe show a listf,2 of the dataset in question? I don't
like a BF of 1 unless it's a big record.

Denys...

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Jim Phillips
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:45 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Howmessy

Thanks for the reply, Gilles. Patrick from Adager replied as well and after
speaking to him on the phone, I am convinced that a capacity change is in
order.


Jim

Gilles Schipper wrote:
I'd try to reduce that max.blocks by increasing the capacity. Try 
increasing to 32001 and run hm again to see the effect on max.blocks.

At 01:20 PM 2008-02-08, Jim Phillips wrote:
>So, I ran Howmessy on the main data base here and the very first 
>data set looks very suspicious. The report for this manual master 
>shows 78% full (19381 entries, 24859 capacity), 30.3% secondaries, 
>maximum blocks=190, blocking factor=1, maximum chain=7, average 
>chain=1.43, standard deviation=.70, expanded blocks=1.43, average 
>blocks=2.30, elongation=1.60 and, are you ready for this, 
>inefficient pointers=100%!
>
> My first thought was to increase the blocking factor (my thinking 
> is with a blocking factor of 1, every pointer must cross a block 
> boundary). I could also increase the capacity somewhat to get the 
> load factor down to 70% or so.
>
> What does this august group recommend?
>
> Jim
>
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