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Mark,

We have been using perl for nearly 6 years,
5 years in production, 2 years with mod_perl.

We have had a HP3000 as a legacy system for 3
years, and while I think that porting perl to mainframes
is an incredible accomplishment.... and I still
can nearly picture the look on the porters face as
he/she executed the first script.... but...

I just think that there are better machines out
there that don't cost 15.2 billion dollars and some
odd cents to run a crippled version of Apache on
and run their 500 bjillion dollar Legacy Mail Order
eCommerce Solution all on the same box.

This is a bad habit!  You don't do it just because you can!

A $5000 Linux box running mod_perl will kick its butt!

Don't get me wrong, I think that teaching mainframers that
UNIX is really what they are missing in their life...

I think that the real question should be...
Are there any perl/DBI drivers (DBD) for the IMAGE database?

THAT IS THE QUESTION!
I will shut up... there could be other reasons that I hadn't
really thought about...   :-)

If the answer is yes...
  Then I will fall off by chair and hit my chin on my desk!

-chris


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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Mark Bixby
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 5:31 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Beginner Apache questions


Hi Joe,

This looks like you're using the bixby.org version of Apache instead of the
CSY
version.

My latest bixby.org version comes with mod_perl bundled in.  If you don't
have
Perl on your machine, then you will need to edit httpd.conf and disable the
mod_perl stuff.  The messages you are seeing are from mod_perl trying to
load
initialization stuff from a non-existent PERL account.

Of course, you *could* do yourself a favor and just install Perl in order to
solve this problem.  ;-)  Perl is extremely cool and powerful.

Regarding editors, if you come to hear my POSIX Programming talk at next
month's Solution Symposium, I will teach you everything you need to know
about
vi in just 3 slides.  ;-)  Vi isn't evil or unusable; it's just different
compared to what people are used to on MPE.

The frombyte and tobyte shell commands can be used to convert bytestream
files
to MPE files and back again in order to use MPE-style editors.  There may be
ISV editors such as QEDIT that can directly handle bytestream files without
needing to convert them first.

The best place to set TZ is as a CI variable in your system logon UDC.

- Mark B.

Joe Weisman wrote:
 >
 > More beginner type APACHE questions.  First, I did this-and-that
 > and also installed the required patch MPELXC6 and remembered to
 > copy the httpd.conf.sample file to httpd.conf, per instructions,
 >
 > Now I stream the JHTTPD job and get the error 'Can't locate Cwd.pm
 > in @INC' (see printout of job below).
 >
 > So, questions:
 >
 > 1) Where should I be looking to find out what that message means,
 >    what "Cwd.pm" and "@INC" and stuff like that
 >
 > 2) How can I copy the httpd.conf file to MPE space so I can edit
 >    it with an editor a little more familiar to me than the estimable
 >    but pretty much unusable Vi?
 >
 > 3) Where can I set the TZ variable globally so files in my posix
 >    space will have times that match the wall clock?
 >
 > Here is what I got when I streamed my JHTTPD job
 >
 > Thanks for all the help, past and future both!
 >
 >     1
 >     2     1
 >     3      :JOB JHTTPD,MGR.APACHEFW,PUB.
 >     4      Priority = DS; Inpri = 8; Time = UNLIMITED seconds.
 >     5      Job number = #j43.
 >     6      MON, JAN  8, 2001,  4:08 PM.
 >     7      HP3000  Release: C.60.00   User Version: C.60.00
 >     8      MPE/iX  HP31900 C.16.01  Copyright Hewlett-Packard 1987.
 >     9      All rights reserved.
 >    10      STREAMED BY MGR.APACHEFW (#S50) ON LDEV# 3
 >    11         STREAM DATE:   MON, JAN  8, 2001,  4:08 PM
 >    12      :setvar TZ "PST8PDT"
 >    13      :xeq sh.hpbin.sys "-c 'umask 007; ./HTTPD -f
/APACHEFW/PUB/conf/httpd
 > .conf'"
 >    14      Can't locate Cwd.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/PERL/PUB/lib/perl5/5.6.0
 > /PA-RISC1.1 /PERL/PUB/lib/perl5/5.6.0
/PERL/PUB/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/PA-RIS
 > C1.1 /PERL/PUB/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 /PERL/PUB/lib/perl5/site_perl .)
at (ev
 > al 1) line 1.
 >    15      :eoj
 >    16      CPU sec. = 4.  elapsed min. = 1.  MON, JAN  8, 2001,  4:08 PM.
 >    17
 > /
 >
 >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 >
 > Be well, and do good things.
 >
 > - Joe Weisman
 >   Computers for Marketing Corporation
 >   541-745-5265 (voice)
 >   541-745-5266 (fax)
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