I agree wholeheartedly with you that visiting foreign countries might be a
better way for a future President to learn about foreign policy than a brief
stint of military service.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cummings" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: A clarification of some Misconceptions of the
Guard
Christian,
I guess a better qualification for being President would be to dodge the
draft completely and roam foreign countries schmoozing with
socialists/communists and disparaging his country (ala Bill Clinton).
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Lheureux [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 9:45 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: A clarification of some Misconceptions of
the Guard
Perhaps one should not confuse the National Guard itself and the reason why
a particular individual chooses to serve there.
I'm ready to bet that the great majority of the women and men who serve in
the NG choose to do so for perfectly horable motives. However, some
individuals (a GWB obviously comes to my mind ...) may have chosen the NG to
avoid taking risks, and may have chosen to do so using their families'
connections, thus undermining the democratic ideal of Armed Service equal
for all.
In a nutshell, let's nont confuse the National Guard and the reason why
somebody served there.
Christian
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]De la
> part de Brice Yokem
> Envoyé : mardi 23 mars 2004 14:40
> À : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : Re: [HP3000-L] OT: A clarification of some
> Misconceptions of the
> Guard
>
>
> It really doesn't matter whether one is in the National. Guard or
> Regular Army, a certain percentage of the force is going to be in
> the support role regardless of the source of manpower. For example,
> the National Guard units ratio to Regular Army units called to WWII
> and Vietnam were relatively few compared to today, (WWII created
> mostly new units) yet the Combat to Support ratio is similar. The
> below analysis was written 1996:
>
> --------------------
>
> My understanding was the Guard was only called into actual combat in
> a 'pinch', since the primary role of the Guard is duties at home, such
> as putting down domestic disturbances, like riots, or
> non-combat duties
> like rescue operations, disaster control, emergency services. Since
> a war overseas requires more logistics than one nearer to
> home, I reasoned
> the Guard was used to 'make up the difference'.
>
> --------------------
>
> This would be true in any Army except Costa Rica's.
> These are givens. Since Art's prior post was conveniently
> snipped, what argument are you trying to counter?
>
> --------------------
>
> It was Michael I was trying to counter, not Art. I claimed
> the military
> gave the soldiers training to discipline the instincts we all
> have, this
> was in the cycle of democracy thread. I said 'years' of
> training because
> I was thinking of the special forces, Michael responded with
> 6 weeks and
> ridiculed me for not knowing anything about the military. As it turns
> out, it is 8 weeks minimum, and more for anyone who gets
> advanced training
> so apparently I know more than he does. Michael appears to delight in
> putting me down, no matter how foolish he needs to make
> himself look in
> order to do it.
>
> In any case after this long harangue, it appears to stand that the
> training the military gets has as one of its purposes to discipline
> the drives we all have.
>
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