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October 2003, Week 5

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I'm sure this machine is already in trouble with McDonalds?  I'm waiting to hear about the law-suit.

-----Original Message-----
From: F. Alfredo Rego [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Itanium too slow?


At 11:28 -0800 10/30/03, John Clogg wrote:

>It sounds as if this guy defines "fast" in terms of clock speed.  It's no surprise that there are processors with faster clocks.

You are right.  Also, there are processors with WAY SLOOOOOOOOOW clocks
(the hp3000 comes to mind).

Interestingly, the (current) clock speed for the Mac G5 is quite
slow.  My Dell laptop is twice as fast.


>The question is whether an OS and compilers that are designed to take advantage of the EPIC architecture can get more work done with Itanium processors than other OS/processor combinations.  The number of applications for a computer like "Big Mac" is quite small, so its performance is of little importance to most computer buyers.

I agree.  In the MPE-Image case (i.e., for Online Transaction
Processing -- OLTP), I see, on a daily basis, many hp3000 users who
get awesome performance with thousands of sessions/jobs accessing
hundreds of millions of TurboIMAGE entries.  All of this, of course,
with clock speeds that would make any self-respecting avant-garde
magazine writer laugh.  The MPE-Image combination is very frugal
in terms of clock-speed consumption.

Despite (or perhaps BECAUSE OF) this frugality, the MPE-Image
combination faces HP's guillotine tomorrow.


>Is the G5 a better processor than Itanium?  I don't know.  It depends on what you're doing with it, I guess.

Absolutely.  Varadarajan's G5 machines seem to fit HIS bill
(technically as well as economically).  Other machines may be
a better fit for other people's bills.

As we say in Spanish, viva la diferencia.

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 |            r  |  Alfredo                  http://www.adager.com
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 |        g      |  F. Alfredo Rego
 |      a        |  Manager, R & D Labs
 |    d          |  Adager Corporation
 |  A            |  Sun Valley, Idaho 83353-3000            U.S.A.
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