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Gilles Schipper <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:00:24 -0500
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Yes, I knew about the USB 3 problem.

But that's not related to the backup program itself - it's due to the
motherboard bios' inability to recognize the usb3 as device prior to
actually booting into Windows.

I'm careful to keep the bios on my main Windows PC pretty current.

My ASUS P8H67-M motherboard was last updated about 3 months ago -
currently version 1104 dated Sept. 26, 2011.

Sadly, still unable to recognize my USB 3 WD Mybook Essentials 3TB
drive prior to fully booting into Windows.

When I  needed to recover from it, I  simply connected it to a USB 2
port first. Worked like a charm.



At 06:49 PM 2012-01-30, Dave Powell,  MMfab wrote:
>I've done some testing with the Win-7 backup pgm.  That's what drove
>me to look at alternatives   :(
>
>That's largely the lack of xp compatibility.  Also, the command line
>syntax is totally different.  I've had a backup system in place for
>many years that met most of my goals (but not image backup) using
>the old ntbackup pgm, plus some batch files and task
>scheduler.  Been doing this with minor changes since the days of
>Windows 95 and server 3-point-something.
>
>With the changes to command-line syntax, and the fact that
>cross-network backups work in the opposite direction, I'm facing a
>total redesign anyway, so might as well design around something that
>will work with XP too, not just Win-7.
>
>And the Win-7 program can't even read the old ntbackup files.  There
>is supposed to a utility from Microsoft to let a Win-7 box read the
>old backups, but I couldn't get it to work on my Win-7 test machine.
>
>One glitch I encounted with the Win-7 backup:  after taking a full
>image backup to a usb 3 drive I tried to test actually restoring
>from it by booting from my emergency CD and discovered that the
>Win-7 restore routines wouldn't even find the drive until I
>unplugged it from the usb 3 prog and connected it to a usb 2.  The
>one free program I have tested so far (EaseUs Todo) passes that
>test, although it isn't totally satisfactory.
>
>I saw in various forums that lots of people have been unable to
>restore from Win-7 backups when they need it.  Not sure how many of
>them had the same usb 3 problem I had or whether there are other issues.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles Schipper" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 15:12
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: free or cheap PC backup software
>
>
>>Windows 7 backup can do most of what you want.
>>
>>The exceptions are:
>>
>>- backing up WindowsXP machines
>>- backing up other machines across network
>>
>>And to backup TO a network resource, you must have Windows 7
>>Professional or Ultimate.
>>
>>And the backup/restore program - including scheduling - is included
>>for no extra charge with all versions of Windows 7 - notwithstanding
>>the network capabilities cited above that are included only with the
>>Professional and Ultimate versions.
>>
>>And it works.
>>
>>At 06:03 PM 2012-01-30, Dave Powell, MMfab wrote:
>>>Anybody have any experience?  Special loves or hates ?  I've been reading
>>>specs and user comments on several, but would like input from the list too.
>>>
>>>Priority is full image backups that will let me recover a whole system
>>>without reinstalling anything, working with enough USB drives so I can have
>>>a least 2 full backups of every machine, with at 1 offsite at all times.
>>>
>>>Ability to restore individual file from full image backups is nice but not
>>>vital.   (I have daily file backups of important files working with xcopy --
>>>that's good enough so I don't need new software to improve on it).
>>>
>>>Must be possible to schedule recurring jobs.
>>>
>>>Must work across a network -- copying from other PCs to external drives
>>>connected to my PC.  Ideally it would be controlled by my PC reaching out to
>>>read the other machines.  The free/cheap pgms I have seen so far work the
>>>other way round -- running on the machine being backed up and writing across
>>>the network.  I can live with that as long as I get some kind of
>>>notification of success or failure to my machine (perhaps an email), and my
>>>share passwords are not visible on the other machines.
>>>
>>>Must work with XP and Windows 7  (backing up from XP 7 & Win-7 to Win-7).
>>>
>>>Must work !  (can't pretend to work and flake out on me when I need it).
>>>
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>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Gilles Schipper
>>GSA Inc.
>>HP System Administration Specialists
>>300 John Street, Box 87651   Thornhill, ON Canada L3T 7R4
>>Tel: 416.702.7900
>>email:  [log in to unmask]  web: http://www.gsainc.com
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>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gilles Schipper
>GSA Inc.
>HP System Administration Specialists
>300 John Street, Box 87651   Thornhill, ON Canada L3T 7R4
>Tel: 416.702.7900
>email:  [log in to unmask]  web: http://www.gsainc.com
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