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sure, but she is trying to save the planet, didn't you hear her say 
that?  Thank goodness for Nancy saving us from oil and Algore saving 
us from ManBearPig.

At 09:49 AM 8/2/2008, Denys Beauchemin wrote:
>Hello again, Ray.  I wanted to bring this one to you attention:
>
>This past week, Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco, that haven of conservatism)
>did everything in her power to prevent any type of vote on opening up
>drilling.  I suggest you read the article below from the San Francisco
>Chronicle where you will find this snippet:
>
>"Even some Democrats are getting antsy, fearing the party's stance could
>hurt them in the fall elections. But Pelosi, who has opposed offshore
>drilling throughout her two decades in Congress, insists opening new areas
>to drilling won't lower gas prices in the short term. She believes a vote
>would only help the GOP blame Democrats for high gas prices.
>
>"I will not . give the administration an excuse for its failure," Pelosi
>said at an end-of-session roundtable interview Thursday.
>
>Pelosi drew derision from her critics for telling the Web site Politico this
>week that she was blocking a vote on offshore drilling because "I'm trying
>to save the planet." But she elaborated on that theme Thursday, saying she
>sees energy independence and fighting global warming as "my flagship issue."
>She said she will use her power to resist a policy that could increase the
>country's oil dependency.
>
>"I'm not going to be diverted for a political tactic from a course of action
>that has a big-picture view - a vision about an energy-independent future
>that reduces our dependence on fossil fuels . and focuses on those
>renewables that are protective of the environment," she said.
>
>Some Democrats have already started to shift their views. Rep. Tim Holden,
>D-Pa., who voted two years ago against drilling in the Arctic National
>Wildlife Refuge and for a federal ban on offshore drilling, told a hometown
>paper last weekend he now wants to "drill everywhere."
>
>A new CNN/Opinion Research poll released this week found that 69 percent of
>Americans favor more offshore drilling, while 30 percent oppose it. But the
>poll found the public was split over whether more coastal drilling would
>lower gas prices, with 51 percent saying yes and 49 percent saying no."
>
>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/31/MNSH122TA3.DTL&f
>eed=rss.bayarea
>
>
>
>When Bush 43 got rid of the executive branch moratorium on off-shore
>drilling a few weeks ago, the price of a barrel of oil took a sizable
>tumble.  Imagine how much of a tumble it would further take if the Democrats
>cared more about the country than they do about their power, especially when
>the public is more than 2 to 1 in favor of increased drilling.
>
>Denys.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>Of Ray Shahan
>Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:22 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Oil prices, and is it a conspiracy of sorts?
>
><SNIP, SNIP>
>
>"So when the Democratic infants took over Congress in 2006, it was a
>foregone conclusion there would be no drilling in ANWAR and offshore.
>Instead the infants want to sue OPEC."
>
><SNIP, SNIP, SNIP, SNIP>
>
>Denys, I recall the Republicans controlling Congress in the past, yet
>when the Republicans controlled the Congress, they did not lift the ban
>on offshore drilling either.
>
>Hmm, I guess the Democrats not lifting the ban is an evil plan, but the
>Republicans leaving the ban in place was/is just an oversight?
>
>I'll be a smart_ass, and say this again: I recall Mr. Bush saying
>something to the tune of he hadn't heard anything about $4.00 a gallon
>gas back in February...
>
>I really envy you, Denys, because you have the world figured out.  For
>you, it's just on/off, black/white, Democrats are evil while Republicans
>are good (dare I say benevolent).  I, on the other hand, can't get my
>arms/mind around all of this stuff (oil prices, wars, starvation, etc.).
>I admit it's far too complicated, and there are just too many players
>for me to understand it all.  Just when I think I can assign blame or
>propose a cure, I realize that I can't blame just one political party
>for the problem, nor can I expect just one political party to affect a
>cure (choke, gasp, I also realize that I am both part of the problem as
>well as part of the cure).  In fact, when I think in terms of
>Republicans vs. Democrats, I always seem to come up with the
>uncomfortable feeling that both of them are evil mothers...they will do
>for themselves before us at any time, and for just about any reason, and
>I don't think one party/politician is any less likely to put their
>interest above mine (or yours, Denys) than another party/politician is.
>
>
>
>
>
>Raymond Shahan
>
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Regards,

Shawn Gordon
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