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Oh, my. Well, Gavin Scott wrote an interesting and provocative post about
this very subject; see
http://raven.utc.edu/cgi-bin/WA.EXE?A2=ind0001B&L=hp3000-l&P=R14535. I was
the guilty party, the "Gregory" that he responded to in his post. In fact, a
search on "tenex" only results in 32 hits (including your post just now), so
it might be worth your while to give that a look.

Had Microsoft done this, there would have been an outcry. Basically, an
'ascii' file transfer has nothing to do with the ASCII code set; you can
perform 'ascii' file transfers between your workstation and an IBM server
such as a mainframe or AS/400, and the file that was ASCII on your PC will
be EBCDIC on the IBM box or vice versa. Ascii transfers also generally take
care of such niceties as your record separators / linefeeds / carriage
return line feeds. This is ideal for plain text, scripts, and so on.

Binary transfers are intended to maintain the file "as is", with no
conversion whatsoever. This is seldom useful between different platforms for
programs, but comes in handy for any file containing, well, "binary" or
non-human readable text, such as graphics or various "dumps". You should get
byte for byte what was on the original host, and can for instance download a
binary from one 3000 to your workstation, then upload it to another 3000
(with the appropriate buildparms, preferably), and expect that program to
run as before.

Tenex is basically what we have gotten used to calling bytestream, for
better or worse. From the MS ftp client, you can issue a "type tenex", and
you can happily upload and download files which are in no way record
oriented. For instance, when I needed to automate ftping some ZIP files to a
Samba share on our 3000, and have them available to other users via Samba
and openable in WinZip, I found it necessary to issue binary locally on the
NT side, and then issue "quote TYPE L 8" to have the 3000 receive them in
the desired format.

Greg Stigers
http://www.cgiusa.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sohrt, Jeff [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 6:33 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: ftp: quickie question


in FTP:
what is type "tenex"
vs.
binary
vs.
others???

thanks in advance,
jds