On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:37:12 -0400, Brice Yokem <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Brice,
>
>as much as I know (am not perfect at least not 100%) there was
>automatically given and granted the citizenship.
>However that wasn't the problem.
>The problem was that they were 100% eligible for retirement, health and un-
>employment.
>They didn't pay 1 cent into any of this but all of a sudden they are
>eligible.
>As much as I recall none of the South or Middle Americans can come and
>collect a retirement that they never paid for. In Germany, it was possible.
>If somebody crosses the border at night and says that he was a doctor or
>engineer, would ge get the unemployment and retirement values?
>I had co-workers that came from Romania, there parents got full retirement,
>they got language classes for all and job-training. They got low-interest
>loans and within being 3-5yrs in Germany they were building 2-family houses
>worth half-million.
>Don't recall that ever happening in California.
>BTW, Arnold does not support GWB on every issue but there is a big support
>as they are in the same party and Arnold worked/helped Bush-senior.
>
>Michael
>
>----------------------
>
>
>Here is the part I want you to take official notice of -
>
>The problem was that they were 100% eligible for retirement, health and un-
>employment.
>They didn't pay 1 cent into any of this but all of a sudden they are
>eligible.
>
>This is a distinction without a difference.  As far as retirement, I
>believe illegals are eligible for social security, but since that is
>spread out over the whole USA, it is not a great a burden.
>
>The illegal immigrants are eligible for education and health care, but
>have not paid into the program, not 1 cent.  So the differences you
>speak of are only a matter of the function of the program, both types
>of programs cost money.  The fact that the East Germans are granted
>citizenship and the illegals in California are not is unimportant.
>Both are elligible for benefits due a citizen and neither have paid
>into the program.
>

Brice,

didn't know that you had 20 millions illegals in California.
Didn't know that illegals can even go to get social security.
Nothing works in the US without a social security number and I know, that
illegals don't get that one.
So, how sure are you about your statements that they get benefits?
Michael

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