Jim,

In response to Wirt, Jim wrote:
>Nelson Mandela is a communist murderer.  So who cares what he has to say.

It would seem that you care.   One thing I notice about smart, interesting
people: when they are jerks they do it big.   You just got your chain jerked
by a couple of pros.   I suggest not responding to the low intellectual
content, verbal-war baiters.   It just encourages them.

Regarding communists.   The Left has a long and well documented history of
being in intentional denial of the dark side of communism.  Therefore, I
wouldn't expect the communist charge to get much traction in many circles.
But in the end what is the point?   Mandela could be more hopeless than Wirt
when it comes to certain political issues but as the saying goes: a stopped
clock is correct twice a day.  Even more often if its a Atmarian clock. ;-)

Cortlandt Wilson
(650) 966-8555

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>Nelson Mandela is a communist murderer.  So who cares what he has tgo say.
>Perhaps the dixie chicks, and anyone else who hates us should take mr
>atwoods lead and just leave.
>If the canadians hate us so much then they can stop selling thier products
>here too.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wirt Atmar" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: A Canadian View Point
>
>
>> Tim quotes a Canadian author:
>>
>> > I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron.
>> >
>> >  He is a moron, but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any
>> >  consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect
>poorly on the
>> >  people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.
>>
>> That's all right. The Dixie Chicks just said four days ago while in
>England
>> that they too were ashamed that George Bush is president. Due to pressure
>at
>> home they were later forced to apologize (although I'm not sure that they
>> meant it). Nelson Mandela however remains steadfast in his belief that
>Bush
>> is a "person who doesn't know how to reason."
>>
>> ======================================
>>
>> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (March 16) - The Dixie Chicks' Natalie Maines,
>who told a
>> London audience earlier this week that she was ``ashamed'' of President
>Bush,
>> said Friday she's sorry for her comment.
>>
>> ``As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because
>my
>> remark was disrespectful,'' the singer said in a statement. ``I feel that
>> whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect.''
>>
>> The Dixie Chicks, who are from Texas, are on a European tour. While in
>> London, Maines told the audience, ``Just so you know, we're ashamed the
>> president of the United States is from Texas.''
>>
>> Angry phone calls flooded a Nashville radio station on Thursday, some
>calling
>> for a boycott of the trio's music. Two Dallas stations stopped
>playing the
>> group's music because of Maines' comments.
>>
>> The popular group won three Grammys last month for their multi-platinum
>disc
>> ``Home.'' They have the No. 1 country song with ``Travelin' Soldier,''
>about
>> a soldier in Vietnam.
>>
>> On Friday, Maines said the group is ``witnessing a huge anti-American
>> sentiment as a result of the perceived rush to war'' while on tour in
>Europe.
>>
>> ``While war may remain a viable option, as a mother, I just want to see
>every
>> possible alternative exhausted before children and American soldiers'
>lives
>> are lost,'' she said. ``I love my country. I am a proud American.''
>>
>> Maines' contrite statement is in contrast to her comments on Thursday,
>when
>> she said: ``I feel the president is ignoring the opinion of many in the
>U.S.
>> and alienating the rest of the world. My comments were made in
>frustration,
>> and one of the privileges of being an American is you are free to voice
>your
>> own point of view.''
>>
>> The Dixie Chicks will kick off a U.S. tour on May 1 in Greenville, S.C.
>The
>> group's other hits include ``Wide Open Spaces,'' ``Ready to Run'' and
>> ``Landslide.''
>>
>> =======================================
>>
>> Wirt Atmar
>>
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