I agree with Denys about ads on the list. The proper way for HP or any
other vendor is to use a very short message pointing to their web site for
details.
  The most recent very unprofessional posting from Steve Lastic was
extremely long and objectionable. This shows his utter disregard for proper
business practices on his part. I hope he was properly flamed for this!
Also, Alex Craig and other recruiters keep sending the same job ads over and
over to the list.
  These ads should be submitted to the 3k.com site for their vendor product
and job posting links.
  Lets leave this lists's bandwidth for important things such as puzzles,
problem solving, whining about HP's lack of HP3000 marketing, and rambling
musings by the sage contributors.