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Joseph Norris <[log in to unmask]>
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Joseph Norris <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:26:32 -0700
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I have heard a lot about BAAN, but I know nothing about it. Can anyone
direct me to a site?

Thanks.

#Joseph Norris (Perl - what else is there?/HP3000/Linux/CGI/Msql)
print @c=map chr $_+100,(6,17,15,16,-68,-3,10,11,16,4,1,14,-68,12,1,14,8,
-68,4,-3,-1,7,1,14,-68,-26,11,15,1,12,4,-68,-22,11,14,14,5,15,-90);


On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, David Frenkel wrote:

Boeing is like most large companies that have numerous (and growing)
divisions.  The commercial airlines
group is implementing BAAN on a Unix (I believe) platform.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Joseph Norris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent:   Wednesday, July 21, 1999 12:44 PM
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        Re: FW: Off Topic: F-22 References

                Hello,

                What box is Boeing moving to?

                Thanks.

                #Joseph Norris (Perl - what else is
there?/HP3000/Linux/CGI/Msql)
                print @c=map chr
$_+100,(6,17,15,16,-68,-3,10,11,16,4,1,14,-68,12,1,14,8,

-68,4,-3,-1,7,1,14,-68,-26,11,15,1,12,4,-68,-22,11,14,14,5,15,-90);


                On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, David Frenkel wrote:

                Boeing is or has migrated off most of its HP3000's, at one
point
                Martin-Marietta was a big HP3000 user
                in Denver.  The original Hughes Aviation (Satellites, etc)
and TRW
                (satellites) were big HP3000 users.
                Dave Frenkel
                Edifecs Commerce
                [log in to unmask]

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Robert Joseph [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
                <mailto:[mailto:[log in to unmask]]>
                Sent:   Wednesday, July 21, 1999 12:52 PM
                To:     [log in to unmask]
<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
                Subject:        Off Topic: F-22 References

                Hmm, noticed two references to the F-22 Raptor yesterday.
The first equated
                the aircraft with the state-of-the-art in military aviation.
The second
                pointed out its delays and cost overruns and was most likely
based on the
                frequent question as to its necessity in a post Cold War
world.
                Like most major military hardware programs around the world,
the reality is
                probably both characterizations are correct.  A glass whose
content is equal
                to half its volume is half full AND half empty.
                As the F-22 program has progressed, more technical details
have started to
                show up in the mainstream media.  As a non-engineer, just a
taxpayer
                interested in military preparedness, I must say I am
impressed with the
                plane's capabilities and convinced of its necessity.  Most
of the fighters
                in the USAF inventory are already over 20 years old and a
top notch
                replacement will be necessary in the next millenium.
                Furthermore, the flight restrictions during the recent
Kosovo campaign
                clearly illustrate the need for more capable military
aircraft even without
                a superpower as potential adversary.  The current generation
of missiles and
                aircraft are extremely lethal and easily acquired by
virtually any entity
                with the cash and connections.  Credit advances in computing
and CAD for
                this situation; we need to leverage our national advantage
in high
                technology just to maintain a slight edge.
                I recall the criticisms of the M1 Abrams battle tank, Apache
helicopter, and
                Bradley Fighting Vehicle in the 1980's.  All experienced
delays and cost
                overruns, yet proved their overwhelming capabilities during
the Gulf War.
                I know that Boeing relies on HP3000 systems; does anyone
know if
                Lockheed-Martin has any?  Perhaps if the F-22 program had
some portion of it
                reliant on our favorite platform we all could be more
comfortable with its
                continuation and ultimate success.
                "Feeling a little like Wirt after this off-topic discourse",
                Robert Joseph
                The NPD Group
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