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>
> Nick asks about IPROF:
>
> > SOUNDS great, Wirt, but who would pay the freight?  Registration,
> >  meals, etc.
> >  cost.  HP has made it plain that it does not want it on its
> >  campus.
> >  Meeting space costs somebody.
>
> Is that really true that HP doesn't want IPROF on its campus? IPROF benefits
> HP at least as much as it does the attendees. If that's so, and not just the
> opinion of one or two people within HP, then I would suggest revisiting the
> issue with HP.
>
> As to the other costs, I've always believed that people who are intelligent
> enough to find their way to Cupertino are intelligent enough to find their way
> to the cafeteria or offsite eateries. This allows these costs to become
> completely external to the costs of the meeting.
>
> Meetings simply don't have to be as expensive as Interex makes them out to be.
> Indeed, I've gotten in the mode that if the registration expense for a meeting
> is much over $25/day, I won't go.
>
> In that regard, I just attended a meeting at the Univ. of Calif. San Diego
> called CalPEG '98. You can see the registration costs at:
>
With all due respect, Wirt, I don't think you can compare a one
day meeting
held at a university to a multi day meeting.  I am sure the
university
subsidizes the meeting to a certain extent, a least by providing
space.

As to having it at HP.  HP'a point is that it is not set up to
handle that
many people effectively.  While I might say (and did at the time)
that it
could if it wanted to I can see HP's point.

As for costs.  For those not domiciled in the vicinity, it takes
hundreds of
dollars to get there and hundreds of dollars to stay there. Meals
cost
something.  A couple hundred dollar swing in the registration fee
should
not be a show stopper.

Regards,

Nick D.