I'm not so sure about that being funny.  Various HP divisions & departments
hired literally hundreds of contract PowerHose programmers in the late 80s,
following a corporate dictum that all systems would be written in PowerHose
to run on the HP3000 (partly because HP & Cognos were sleeping together at
the time), most of whom sat on their butts most of the time due to lack of
project focus, but would occasionally build wonderfully convoluted 'systems'
for their promoted-out-of-the-way Supervisors.

Not to start another PowerHose bashing thread, but would YOU want to unravel
a poorly designed and implemented PH system?

Also IIRC it's not too uncommon to read on this list complaints about
getting any info from HP, slow response at the RC, yadda yadda.  Agilent,
having been spun off, no longer hires the old "HP way", meaning job for life
once in the door; now they're wielding the ax.

This HP vs customer relationship has never been easy.  But what a great
operating system HP "invented" to compete directly with IBM DOS.  I wonder
how many times they got sued for 'look & feel'?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stigers, Greg [And] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: If there are HP people in this forum they would
> be laughing
> b ig time....
>
>
> X-no-Archive:yes
> a "web" of inconsistencies?
>
> I mean sure, no two of those web sites powered by the 3000
> look alike, but
> you can hardly blame that on the 3000, can you?
>
> Poorly documented?
>
> Oh. Right. I forgot. The source code isn't publicly available.
>
> Obsolete technologies?
>
> Oh. Yeah. Those really old binaries that someone compiled back in the
> sixteen bit days that still run today without being recompiled.
>
> and on and on?
>
> Must mean all those funny things we can do, that no one else
> can... Like
> incorporate new technologies that eventually become someone's
> standard,
> while not abandoning our legacy.
>
> Gee, I hope that our HP members are laughing big time. It was
> a pretty funny
> post.
>
> Greg Stigers
> http://www.cgiusa.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dsilva [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:28 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: If there are HP people in this forum they would be
> laughing big
> time....
>
>       The systems you are talking about are a "web" of
> inconsistencies, hard
> to trace, hard to research, hard to manage, poorly documented, of very
> cumbersome design, full of holes, obsolete technologies and on and on,
> <snip>
>