then don't do it - lots of people are doing it and it works - the entire
city of Largo florida has converted to Linux and KDE, the entire state
of Oregon is looking to do the same, as is Ford Europe, and then there
is Burlington which has been on it for some time, the list goes on and
on.  If you don't want to get familiar with it and educated with it,
then stick with that you know.

On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 08:12 AM, John Clogg wrote:

> Okay, so every company has its own unique version of Linux.  Where do
> they
> go for support?  How many companies are willing to run mission critical
> applications in such an environment?  Although many techno-geeks find
> such
> an environment desirable, I wonder how many of them work for companies
> that
> will permit them to indulge their urge to tinker.  This is why I believe
> "proprietary" versions of Unix will not die off for a long while.
>
> By the way, the recent postings about journalized file systems opens the
> proprietary can of worms.  Here we have competing vendors seeking to
> differentiate their own version of Linux with extra features.  Sound
> familiar?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Gordon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:04 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT: Is open source fading away?
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 07:55 AM, Mark Wonsil wrote:
>
>> Tom asks some good questions:
>>> Which says what about the future of linux itself? Can
>>> companies run their
>>> businesses on an OS maintained by people who do it just
>>> because they feel
>>> like it? Is linux viable in the long term, or will it also do
>>> a fast fade?
>>
>> Apparently Mandrake thinks so.
>>
>>
> http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2826684,00.html
>>
>> Here's a clip:
>>
>> "If Linux is to make serious inroads in mission-critical server
>> environments, it must offer journalized file system (JFS) support. A
>> JFS is
>> important for mission-critical business environments, as it provides a
>> high
>> level of data integrity and helps to reduce downtime due to data
>> corruption
>> or hardware failure. While other vendors of Linux operating systems
>> have
>> been slow to adopt journalized file systems, Mandrake 8.1 supports
>> several,
>> including Ext3, ReiserFS, XFS and JFS. Such support gives IT managers
>> who
>> are evaluating Mandrake versus other Linux OSes (or Windows) an
>> additional
>> reason to chose Mandrake as a mission-critical server OS."
>>
> This article is only partially correct.  SuSE supported ReiserFS before
> anyone else did, and RedHat did Ext3 - I think Mandrake might be the
> only one to include all the different ones.
>
>> How about MPEFS Or maybe TFS?  The TurboImage File System.  ;-)
>>
> the journaling file system basically get's you what the transaction
> manager gives you, the trick here would be to tie a DBMS into it so you
> had the same level of recovery.  Now again, here is the beauty of open
> source.  Say you wanted to use some funky obscure OSS database, you
> could integrated it into the JFS yourself (or pay someone to do it)
> instead of filling in surveys and petitions and going to trade shows and
> argue that you need it and waiting a few years to be told it's off the
> radar now.
>
>> Mark "Pipe-dreaming and naive" Wonsil
>>
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