Hi:
I just joined the the list, but I have been an independent consultant for an
excess
of 22 years. As a software specialist, I chose to devote my craft to the best
OS
at the time. This was a time where the HP3000 was the size of fridge, had one
user and did less than some of today's cell phones. To this day, I am still
working
on the same OS, not for any other reason but because it is still the best.
Over the last 22 years, languages have come and gone, some have even changed
but the ever present reality throughout time has been that MPE was and still is
the
OS of choice for businesses. Some companies have lost track of this fact while
striving to stay with the latest technology. This statement applies to both the
User
community and by large the vendors. While some vendors have decided to bail
out of the MPE environment, other have chosen to stay on and make it work for
them.
As for the statement by Ian Sargent regarding the availability of usable
applications,
I must in part disagree. I have worked on several 4th generation languages,
Powerhouse from Cognos, Speedware and Autobahn from the Speedware
Corporation. Between the two 4gls, my vote goes to Speedware. Their suite of
software products have been around from the beginning. At first, Speedware
worked only on MPE, but now, it works on just about any OS (and still MPE).
One of their latest products is Autobahn; it actually allows a user on the web
to
interface with information on the HP3000.
I have included two quotes generally describing their Speedware/4gl and Autobahn
for those who do not know of their products.
Speedware/4GL & Speedware/Designer makes an application developer's
life easier and a lot more productive-it generates optimized code and
automates
many boring but necessary programming chores. The Speedware suite includes
Speedware/4GL, a complete, 4th-generation platform-independent programming
language, and its CASE companion, Speedware/Designer. This complete
environment integrates application development, maintenance and
enhancement,
giving you maximum productivity for creating transaction-oriented
applications
Speedware's proven technology is platform-independent and can easily
encompass client/server and Web environments.
Speedware Autobahn is a complete Web development environment.
It lets you create new enterprise-scale, mission-critical Web applications
or Web-enable existing applications, and operate them in Internet, Intranet
and Extranet environments. Speedware Autobahn is based on an n-tier
scalable application server that supports multiple Web interfaces, including
CGI, NSAPI and ISAPI. The Speedware Autobahn graphical, client-server
development tool handles the full application development cycle, including
prototyping, program creation, testing and maintenance.
Can anyone else add any other applications which have stood the test of time,
or who have committed themselves to support the MPE OS for the long run. ?
Maybe the idea is to start a thread with all the applications available,
with the stipulation that it must not only be supported on the MPE OS
platform but be available to the MPE User base.
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Olav Kappert
IOMIT International
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"ian.sargent" wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Just thought I would add my 2 pence worth....
>
> There has been a great deal of talk about HP (and the list) about raising
> the awareness of the e3000 and I agree with pretty much most of it.
>
> However, there is another area that has not really been mentioned yet -
> that is applications!
>
> A key factor to the success of any OS is the software that is available for
> it.
> WE know what is available, WE know how good it is, WE know it's
> reliability......
>
> Perhaps what is required is a combined effort on the part of this list, end
> users, HP AND the application vendors! Do we therefore need to get them
> in on the act?
>
> I also see another problem from the HP side of the fence and that is it's
> sales
> force, especially some of the 'newer/younger members' who do not know
> enough about software availability for the 3000 and cannot therefore put
> together
> a TRUE solution! I am certainly not trying to put them down but I am sure
> that
> some of them don't even know what a 3000 is! I certainly have been asked
> "What is MPE?" from HP staff!
>
> Hardware is a (relatively) simple product to sell but without a good suite
> of
> applications the hardware is just an expensive paperweight. Lets face it,
> one of
> the reasons that Unix and NT have both done well it due to the fact that
> there
> are a LOT of very well publicised people producing software for these
> platforms.
> You certainly don't see the same amount for 3000 software - well, not over
> here
> in England anyway!
>
> I see one solution to this problem as being a 'simple' internal education
> program
> for HP's sales force. If they knew what was available and how good it was
> then
> they would be probably be in a much better position to sell a whole lot more
> hardware/software solutions!
>
> As I said, just my 2 pence worth.
>
> Regards
> Ian
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