Hi David :) 
   actually that one was my fault and Denys corrected it for me :) 

Art "MSN Messager is a pain in proxies!" Bahrs 


Art Bahrs, CISSP 
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Providence Health & Services 
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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of David M
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:02 AM
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Subject: Fw: [HP3000-L] Anybody There?

Dennis,
this was from you - no OT in the subject, therefore, please, don't be
rude.
David Milstein
IT Manager
CIS Marketing, Inc
800.547.5478 ext 116
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denys Beauchemin" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Anybody There?


> Over the summer, I bought a Nikon D60.  It's a phenomenal camera and
one 
> of
> the most important qualities it has is that it is FAST and for me,
that 
> made
> a big difference.  Let me explain.
>
> In the 60s and 70s I was a camera buff, I ran around with a 
> top-of-the-line
> Minolta (could not afford a Nikon (sigh),) taking pictures all the
time.
> Many of my pictures made it to the student paper at college.  Also
there 
> was
> a properly equipped darkroom at the university and I learned how to 
> develop
> and print my own material.  I upgraded the camera a few times over the
> years, but as we know cameras were not changing much in those days.
>
> In 2000, I got a Nikon Coolpix 995 as my first real digital camera.
This
> one had a 3 megapixel sensor and add-on lenses.  I bought an Epson
printer
> to go with it and I went to town with pictures.  After a while, I came
to
> hate the camera, the shutter lag was horrible and startup time was 
> measured
> with a calendar. I had a wide assortment of pictures of back of heads
and
> children running around and away from the camera.  The caption on
these
> pictures had a common thread:  "Just a few seconds before the
picture..." 
> I
> got so frustrated with the camera, it would only come out in very
special
> events, taking one or two posed pictures and then back in the closet.
I
> even used my old SLR to take some pictures, and while I loved the
> responsiveness and the ability to compose the picture in the
viewfinder
> (including depth of field, etc,) I was really unhappy about using film
> again; it really reduced my options as I could do so much more with 
> digital.
> Plus film limited the number of pictures I could take.
>
> I decided that my next camera would be a D-SLR with interchangeable
lenses
> and it would have to be fast and with a high pixel count; I was also 
> hoping
> to have a 24X36 mm (FX) sensor.  So, I waited and read some reviews
every
> six months or so.
>
> Finally, Nikon released the D60 and I read a lot about it.  It was a
D-SLR
> with interchangeable lenses.  Its sensor is 10MP, but it is the DX
format,
> meaning that it's smaller than the FX that I wanted so the lenses have
a
> 1.5:1 magnification effect.  But what was most critical to me was the 
> speed
> and responsiveness of the camera.  That was the big feature touted by 
> Nikon
> and reviewed by many.
>
> So, I took the plunge and the camera showed up at my doorstep a few
days
> later.  I'm one of those quys who actually read the entire owner's
manual
> and this one has a big manual, because it has a lot of features.  The
very
> first thing I tested was the responsiveness of the camera; how quick
does 
> it
> start up and how's the lag between pressing the shutter and getting
the
> picture?
>
> In a word, this puppy is fast.  I can push the button to turn it on
and by
> the time the camera reaches my eye, it's ready.  When I press the
shutter,
> there is no lag that I can detect; the picture gets taken there and
then.
>
> And the pictures are great, at 10MP, the resolution of the digital
camera
> exceeds the equivalent film camera's approximate 8MP resolution.  I 
> realize
> that resolution is going to keep on climbing, but 10MP is extremely
usable
> for my purposes.  I am now considering a new printer to do this size
> justice.  An Epson printer, of course.  Film has passed into oblivion,

> there
> is simply no reason to use film-based cameras in this day and age,
unless
> one has more money than sense and there is no way I would recreate a
> darkroom in my house; my darkroom is my computer and printer.
>
> The camera is a usable format, not as big as an equivalent 35mm camera
and
> not as heavy but it has a very solid feel to it.  There is a wide
panoply 
> of
> features in this camera and for an old camera buff like me that ran
around
> with a manual SLR adjusting aperture and shutter speed as needed, this
> camera caters to those whims as well as doing everything for me if I
so
> desire.
>
> I bought a Lexar professional SDHC 4gb card for it, and it has room
for 
> 510+
> pictures at the fine setting, the Lexar has the fastest throughput
around.
> I charged the battery when I first got it some months ago and I have
take
> about 400 pictures so far, many with flash and I have yet to recharge
the
> battery.  My old 995 chewed up AA batteries with vigor and drained the
> rechargeable ones with enthusiasm. I always had to carry a spare set
or 
> two
> if I was going to some kind of event that would require more than
20-30
> pictures.
>
> The D60's sensor is made by Sony, but the camera and lenses are pure 
> Nikon.
> I have since bought a higher magnification zoom lens for it (should be

> here
> tomorrow,) also with the vibration reduction feature and I am having
fun
> with a camera again. I have taken action pictures in series, and while

> that
> would have required the motor drive on my film SLR, the D60 keeps on
> shooting and with the Lexar, it doesn't ever have to stop.
>
> To top everything off, the price of this camera and the lenses is
quite
> affordable.  While the FX sensors still have prices in the multiple
> thousands, this DX sensor camera is in the higher multiple hundreds
and 
> the
> lenses designed for it are in the lower hundreds.  What's not to like?
>
> Warning, pontification ahead.
>
> With the advent of digital cameras, one needs to decide whether (s)he 
> wants
> a camera made by an electronics company or a camera (optics) company.
My
> choice has always been for a camera made by a camera company.  Nikon
gets
> its sensors from Sony, an electronics company, and packages them in 
> cameras
> with lenses that it knows how to build.  Nikon knows cameras and it
shows;
> Nikon also offers a wide range of accessories for their cameras,
precisely
> because they are a camera company and they understand the needs of a
> photographer.  The only other brand I would consider is Canon; I
consider
> the rest to be a pile of third rate junk.
>
> So Art, good luck on your Quest but as for me the Quest ended when I
> purchased the D60, now the adventure resumes; photography is fun
again.
>
>
> Denys...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf
> Of Art
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] Anybody There?
>
> Hi All :-)
>
>   Haven't seen any emails since Friday???
>
>
>
>   So a quick update on the digital camera quest.. Patrick S. gave me a
> simply awesome site www.DPReview.com for learning and reviewing
Cameras!
> Several (meaning lots!) of people gave some great input. John K. gave
some
> really good insights on being wary of the bias towards Nikon which is
a
> great camera company. but maybe a great digital image company is what
I
> need?
>
>
>
>   Looking at the Canon 50D & 40D. but for those who mentioned it.
talked
> with the Sony Store Camera guy (he owns a 400 Aleph I believe) did say

> that
> since they had acquired Konica which had (I guess) acquired Minolta
that 
> the
> Sony digital cameras would use the Minolta lenses - PROVIDED the
Minolta
> lens was made after 1984!
>
>
>
>   So, the Quest continues!
>
>
>
> Art "Withdrawal symptoms are setting in" Bahrs
>
>
>
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> Art Bahrs, CISSP
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