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Richard Barker wrote:

> 1- Iraq was indeed trying to buy uranium from Niger.  It did so many times

> in the past; even Joe Wilson's report stated that.

 

> Of course, not true, the documents stating this have been proved to be

> fake some time ago.

 

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030719-120154-5384r.htm

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030331fa_fact1

 

Those reports are way out of date.  Just for fun here is what the Butler
report states about this issue:

 

"503. From our examination of the intelligence and other material on Iraqi
attempts to buy uranium from Africa, we have concluded that: 

 

a. It is accepted by all parties that Iraqi officials visited Niger in 1999.


 

b. The British Government had intelligence from several different sources
indicating that this visit was for the purpose of acquiring uranium. Since
uranium constitutes almost three-quarters of Niger's exports, the
intelligence was credible. 

 

c. The evidence was not conclusive that Iraq actually purchased, as opposed
to having sought, uranium and the British Government did not claim this. 

 

d. The forged documents were not available to the British Government at the
time its assessment was made, and so the fact of the forgery does not
undermine it."

 

There is a lot more in that report.  To this day, the British government
stands behind the assertion.  There are many more recent reports that prove
Joe Wilson lied and that Saddam Hussein did try to buy Uranium from Niger.

 

 

> 3- More than 300,000 bodies have been recovered from Iraqi mass graves.

 

>More nonsense

 

>http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1263830,00.html

 

However,

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/27000.htm

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/14/wirq14.xml

 

 

Then again, 300,000 may be way too low a number:

 

http://www.shianews.com/hi/articles/politics/0000374.php

 

http://afhr.org/en/graves.html?lang=en

 

(What happened to my statement #2 about Saddam using WMDs against his own
people?)

 

>4- Iraq was hiding WMDs from inspectors and moved them to Syria before OIF.

>We now have the details on how this was accomplished.

 

>No, you have read one book, written by one person with no evidence to

>suggest it is true.  Let's wait and see if anything comes out of it.  At 

> the moment all investigations have shown this not to be true.

 

> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6834079/

> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107946,00.html

> http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/04/26/iraq.main/

 

Again those are very old reports.  However, between the book, the newly
released document dump and the 20 tons of Sarin gas, we are starting to get
a clearer picture.  Also, so far no one has contradicted General Sada.  I
have also read several times in other reports that the Russian special ops
troops, the Spetznat, were in Iraq to help move the WMDs on the eve of OIF.
We shall see about that one.

 

 

>5- The UN was totally and completely corrupted by Saddam with the Oil-for

>Food program in what is arguably the biggest corruption scandal in the

>history of mankind.

 

>Scandalous, yes, the biggest, I guess that's your opinion.

 

I said "arguably".  However, if you have a bigger corruption scandal in
mind, please share it with us.

 

 

>7- Germany, France and Russia rearmed Iraq of the first Gulf War.

 

>http://www.sundayherald.com/31710

 

>"The five permanent members of the security council -- Britain, France,

>Russia, America and China -- are named as allowing companies to sell
>weapons technology to Iraq."

 

>Strange how you forgot to mention Britain, America and China.

 

So let's have a look at the link:

 

I read this:

 

" The dossier claims 24 US firms sold Iraq weapons. Hewlett-Packard sold
nuclear and rocket technology; Dupont sold nuclear technology, and Eastman
Kodak sold rocket capabilities. The dossier also says some '50 subsidiaries
of foreign enterprises conducted their arms business with Iraq from the
US'."  (That may explain why I did not include America in the list.)

 

I was NOT aware that HP sold nuclear and rocket technology to anyone.  Carly
really did diversify the company.  Dupont does nuclear technology now?
Kodak sells rocket capabilities?  Amazing.

 

I also read this paragraph:

 

"Germany, currently opposed to war, is shown to be Iraq's biggest
arms-trading partner with 80 companies selling weapons technology, including
Siemens. It sold medical machines with dual-purpose parts used to detonate
nuclear bombs. The German government reportedly 'actively encouraged'
weapons co-operation and assistance was allegedly given to Iraq in
developing poison gas used against Kurds."

 

When the US Army M1A1 tanks rolled into Baghdad, a couple of them were
disabled by new anti-tank weapons recently developed in Russia.  These
weapons were not available before 1991, they were developed in the late
1990s, but Saddam acquired them during the embargo.

 

What happened to statement #6?

 

>8- Saddam bought off most, if not all, the European press with the

>Oil-For-Food program.

 

>Oh please, so Saddam somehow controls all media outlets in the numerous

>countries throughout Europe.  Yeah sure.

 

Notice that I did not say that he controls the media outlets, but that he
BOUGHT off most of the Euro-press.  He also bought off George Galloway and
others in governments across Europe.  The Oil-For-Food program brought in a
lot of money to Saddam to do whatever he wanted.  Now, do you think the
reporters who were bought off would now turn around and confess to having
received money in the form of oil allocations?  Please.

 

>10- Saddam's Iraq had close ties to Al Quada and helped train and support

>its "operatives."

 

>Every report on this subject has established that there was no link between

>Al Qaeda and Saddam.

 

Once again, your information is very old.  Do you not get any news at all in
Europe?  The document dump has been a veritable treasure trove of
information and we are just barely starting to get into it.  It details how
the terrorists were trained, where they were trained and what they were
trained in.  Saddam's Iraq was a veritable terrorist academy with a wide
syllabus in various nefarious deeds.  I was reading recently how they had
Iraqi Army officers train foreign terrorists in making IEDs.

 

By the way, none of this is in Sada's book.  All this is coming from the
document dump and the discovery of training camps around Iraq.

 

Earlier this week, I was reading more newly-translated documents pertaining
to the Iraqi Nuclear program.  I am waiting to see more supporting documents
about it.

 

And what happened to statements 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15?

 

Denys

 


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