Joseph wrote:

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>Look if you are going to continue to bash the 3k then get off
>the list. You are a negative impact on what the 3000-L is all
>about. We do not want to hear about you abilities to move on.
>People on this list are PRO HP3000. get off your high horse,
>move to your NT listserver and tout your image there.
>You are one of the killers of the system. GO away MOVE ON...nuff said...

I am not *bashing* the hp e3000. It is a good system and I too
have *loved* the box. We are very happy supporting many customers
using the system. Without companies like ours (QSS) you would have
had an announcement much earlier than 11/14/2001 :-)

However, I am a realist. Back in August/Sept of last year we began
having serious concerns about it's price/performance compared to
other solutions available in the marketplace. hp's announcement
on 11/14 only confirmed our suspicions.

Remember - we are an ISV and have a different perspective. In-house
MIS shops probably have the hardest time in making a migration
away from any system (especially the hp e3000). Especially those
who have only experience in this system. I know many *programmers*
who were promoted from operations within an hp e3000 shop and they
only know the hp e3000. In talking to them, they are *freaking out*
because they have no other skills to fall back on. They don't have
formal IT training and because they work in a small shop they don't
have time for training and/or learning new technology. This is the
sad part of the 11/14/2001 announcement. But, in data processing
migrations happen. To stick your head in the sand and pretend that
the hp e3000 is/was the best system ever made is not doing your
employer any favors. There are lots of good solutions out there
that will cost you significantly less money. Maybe not in the
short run (considering the migration costs), but over time.

Yes - its different. Yes - its a change. But, change can be good.

I for one will enjoy running in an environment where:

* files don't have to be pre-sized to avoid being filled up.
* using a database that has a flexible connection topology so
  I can deploy it in various ways without changing my application.
* many utilities that have been developed for open systems will be
  available and will work seamlessly with the o/s.
* and many more can be listed...

duane percox

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