At 08:10 AM 6/10/97 -0400, [log in to unmask] wrote:
><snip>
><<Sorry Joe.  This is the non-moderated 3000 list.  The moderated list is a
>collection of messages from hp3000-l which are put together by Jeff Kell
>(Thanks Jeff!!!) and are sent out when they reach a certain size or day of
>the week (I'm not sure).  It tends to eliminate some of the noise from this
>list.
>
>Ken,
>
>I think you have combined the concepts of "moderated list" and "digest".
One
>my elect to receive the HP3000-L mail as "20-90" (by Joe Geiser's count)
>messages a day or in a single message with the 20 to 90 messages.  The
content
>is identical. They differ in frequency of delivery.  Both are moderated by
the
>rules that Jeff has built into the Listserv software.  The HP3000-L digest
is
>set to go out once a day.  There may be some upper limit of number of lines
>that will kick in, but I do not recall seeing it happen.  I subscribe to
>another list that uses the same software where as soon as the digest exceeds
>500 lines, it goes out (the current message is completed).  People who
receive
>the digest may want to receive smaller digests and more frequently.  I would
>not mind it myself.
>
>Leonard Berkowitz
>

Leonard,

I hate to disagree but the Moderated list is different than the digest form
of the HP3000-L.  I get the HP3000-L in digest form every day.  I went to
the archives and found the following posts from Jeff.

On Jan 10, 1997 Jeff wrote:

"I am trying to set up a moderated echo of the HP3000-L list to be
distributed in digest format (HP3000-M) and I got the subscriptions
backwards.  I knew I messed up just after pressing the "send" key, but
unfortunately there's no "get back" key in my mail software.

Don't make a mad dash to sign up for HP3000-M.  It is NOT a separate
list, it will NOT contain anything you don't see here, and it does NOT
even have any subscribers yet.  The idea is to provide a slightly more
compact delivery format for the HP3000-L discussion, with our occasional
humorous and/or nostalgic and/or off-topic diversions excluded (as well
as my administrivial rantings like this).  It is still an experiment
(you may recall I tried something similar about 6 weeks ago)."

Then on Jan 20, 1997 he added:

"I have heard many times over the years from "dissatisfied" readers of
the list about the volume of traffic and signal-to-noise ratio of the
content.  I can understand their viewpoint, but have never considered
changing the informal atmosphere here.  However, as a first step...

I would like to announce the availability of a new "format" for
receiving the HP3000-L postings -- a "moderated" list called HP3000-M.
Let me emphasize that this is NOT a "new list" - it is intended to be
an alternate delivery format for HP3000-L messages.  At present, it
is moderated (by me) and only messages "on topic" (in my opinion) are
forwarded from HP3000-L to HP3000-M.  Postings are collected in digest
format and mailed out once a week on Sunday (this may change due to
file size).  The previous week's digest condensed down to:

> There are 113 messages totalling 4182 lines in this issue.

The list has no archives at present (I didn't want to duplicate the
HP3000-L archives, and the space required).  Any "replies" are directed
back to HP3000-L, and any attempts to post to HP3000-M are forwarded to
me (where I will simply direct it to HP3000-L).  Also, there is no news
gateway for this list, so there will be no associated newsgroup.  And
while it *is* technically possible for you to change your subscription
options to get individual articles in lieu of the digest, it will be
nothing like HP3000-L for timeliness.  I do the "moderation" in batches,
usually once a day from home in the evenings.  If waiting a "week" is
too long, I can alter it for different timeframes (or volume, such as
every thousand lines).  Comments (e-mail privately/direct) welcomed.

If you want a copy of last week's digest, e-mail me directly and I'll
forward you a copy.  If you wish to subscribe, send mail to:

   <[log in to unmask]>

with the text:

   subscribe HP3000-M Your Name Here

Lastly, this is still in "beta test" mode pending subscriber feedback.
Naturally, I hope everyone here doesn't go running over to HP3000-M, but
I'd much rather have you subscribe to HP3000-M than drop out altogether
if you don't appreciate the volume and content here.  I also hope that
the "word" gets out so that some previously disgruntled/overwhelmed
subscribers will return for the new format.  And finally, if anyone is
willing to help "load-share" moderation responsibility, please contact
me directly.  I'd feel much better with a volunteer "group" for both
backup and editorial diversity.

Hope this fills a niche for some of you out there, and we can increase
our readership.

Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]>
HP3000-L/HP3000-M Administrator and Flunky-At-Large"

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth everyone but I felt that re-advertising
the moderated list was a good thing.


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