Shawn, great answer.
Another one is something about someone blaming his tools for his errors.
Denys
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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Shawn Gordon
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:13 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Cannot Purge PRIV mode File Problem
At 02:09 PM 7/13/2008, Brian Donaldson wrote:
>One thing I did forget to mention was that once I have the eight char
>(lowercase or uppercase) lockword, I am using the AIF intrinsic AIFFILEGPUT
>to plug the lockword into the file.
>
>So I am assuming that the AIF isn't smart enough to upshift all the
>letters before plugging the lockword into the file.
that's like blaming the steak for not cooking itself to the right
temperature.
>Brian.
>
>
>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:04:05 -0400, Brian Donaldson
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Nope, the lockword was created in a Cobol program running under the MPEiX
> >directory, not the shell.
> >
> >This problem only seems to occur if the lockword has lower-case chars but
> >I can purge the file via MPEX ok if the lockword is in upper-case.
> >
> >So I had to fix my routine that creates the random lockword (password)
> >to restrict it to upper-case chars (and numbers) only.
> >
> >Brian.
> >
> >On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:04:10 -0700, Bahrs, Art
<[log in to unmask]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hi Brian
> >> Not an expert here but I don't remember the ability in the lockword
> >handlers to support lower case chars
> >>
> >> Could the lockword have been established in the shell? Might have
been
> >established programtically ther?
> >>
> >>
> >>Sent via PDA
> >>Thanks
> >>Art Bahrs
> >>Security Engineer
> >>[log in to unmask]
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Brian Donaldson <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 9:58 AM
> >>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Subject: Re: Cannot Purge PRIV mode File Problem
> >>
> >>I was able to whack the file (finally) via a nasty little program named
> >>FSCHECK.MPEXL.TELESUP
> >>
> >>However, this still leaves me wondering why I couldn't purge the file
> >>because it had lowercase chars in the lockword.
> >>
> >>Anyone know why?
> >>
> >>Brian.
> >>
> >>On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:37:08 -0400, Brian Donaldson <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
> >>
> >>>FILE: xxxxx.PUB.SYS
> >>>
> >>>FILE CODE : -201 FOPTIONS: ASCII,FIXED,NOCCTL,STD
> >>>BLK FACTOR: 8 CREATOR : MANAGER.SYS
> >>>REC SIZE: 32(BYTES) LOCKWORD: hMOGhF2m
> >>>BLK SIZE: 256(BYTES) SECURITY--READ : ANY
> >>>EXT SIZE: 0(SECT) WRITE : ANY
> >>>NUM REC: 0 APPEND : ANY
> >>>NUM SEC: 0 LOCK : ANY
> >>>NUM EXT: 0 EXECUTE : ANY
> >>>MAX REC: 1024 **SECURITY IS ON
> >>> FLAGS : NO ACCESSORS
> >>>NUM LABELS: 0 CREATED : SUN, JUL 13, 2008, 9:14 AM
> >>>MAX LABELS: 254 MODIFIED: SUN, JUL 13, 2008, 9:14 AM
> >>>DISC DEV #: 2 ACCESSED: SUN, JUL 13, 2008, 9:14 AM
> >>>SEC OFFSET: 65024 LABEL ADDR: $0000005E.$002C6420
> >>>VOLCLASS : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>:MPEX
> >>>
> >>>MPEX/3000 29N00420 (c) VESOFT Inc, 1980 6.5 03:04918 For help type
>'HELP'
> >>>
> >>>Hint: %PRINT @.DOC;SEARCH="CUST_NUM";PREV="PROCEDURE" or "FUNCTION";NUM
> >>> shows you all lines containing CUST_NUM and the
> immediately preceding
> >>> lines that contain PROCEDURE or FUNCTION (i.e. the
> procedure headers).
> >>>
> >>>%ALTFILE LOCKERD2;CODE=0
> >>>-----Altering LOCKERD2.PUB.SYS
> >>>LOCKWORD VIOLATION (FSERR 92)
> >>>Error: Doing Fopen of LOCKERD2/.PUB.SYS.
> >>>%PURGE LOCKERD2
> >>>-----Will purge LOCKERD2.PUB.SYS (code "PRIV", type FA, EOF 0, 0
sectors)
> >>>OK to purge 1 file (y/N)? Y
> >>>-----Purging LOCKERD2.PUB.SYS (0 sectors)
> >>>LOCKWORD VIOLATION (FSERR 92)
> >>>Unable to purge file "LOCKERD2/.PUB.SYS". (CIERR 384)
> >>>%REDO
> >>>
> >>>PURGE LOCKERD2/hMOGhF2m
> >>>
> >>>-----Will purge LOCKERD2.PUB.SYS (code "PRIV", type FA, EOF 0, 0
sectors)
> >>>OK to purge 1 file (y/N)? Y
> >>>-----Purging LOCKERD2.PUB.SYS (0 sectors)
> >>>LOCKWORD VIOLATION (FSERR 92)
> >>>Unable to purge file "LOCKERD2/.PUB.SYS". (CIERR 384)
> >>>%
> >>>EXIT
> >>>
> >>>END OF PROGRAM
> >>>
> >>>:FILE T;DEV=DISC
> >>>
> >>>:FILE T;DEV=DISC
> >>>:STORE LOCKERD2.PUB.SYS;*T;PURGE
> >>> >> TURBO-STORE/RESTORE VERSION C.65.19 B5152AA <<
> >>> (C) 1986 HEWLETT-PACKARD CO.
> >>>
> >>>STORE LOCKERD2.PUB.SYS;*T;PURGE
> >>>
> >>>SUN, JUL 13, 2008, 9:23 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>FILES STORED : 1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>TOTAL MEDIA WRITTEN : 1
> >>>
> >>>LOCKWORD VIOLATION (FSERR 92)
> >>>LOCKERD2.PUB .SYS NOT PURGED: LOCKWORD VIOLATION ENCOUNTERED
ON
> >>> FILE OPEN
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>How on earth do I get rid of this file? It has a lockword with
lowercase
>chars
> >>>in it and I cannot purge the file.............! (even when I give it
the
> >>>correct
> >>>lockword)
> >>>
> >>>TIA,
> >>>Brian.
> >>>
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