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Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:32:59 -0600
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Michael Baier wrote:
>>In response to Fred, after Michael, after Bill after Erik...  since
>>we're all expressing our personal views -
>>
>>Why is it that some would consider Erik's comments (which I happen to
>>agree with...) to be coming from a 'closed mind', but their own minds
>>are not open to even the possibility of a God?  It seems it's always
>>easy to call someone of differing views 'closed-minded', but where's
>>the openness on the part of the person who is labeling someone else?
>>As others have noted, this is a matter of belief/convictions/opinions
>>which have been shaped by our observations, environment, upbringing
>>and personal experience.  Not something we'll ever all agree on.
>>
>
>
> Connie,
>
> I never said, that I don't believe in "God" or a "higher spirit".
> Yes, I hope there is something smarter and better than us and hopefully
> something after "death".
> What I don't believe in, is that "Christianity" that is preached in the
> churches and by many others everwhere.

The KKK calls themselves 'Christian".
What are you hearing that you don't agree with?

> That is very close-minded and if you look/listen closely, full of hatred,
> lies and hypocrits.

God says he is the only one (that closed minded God).
He says there are things that he hates.
Jesus called the religious leaders of his day hypocrites (had them then
too).

I sin too. Does that make me a hypocrite because I point out what is
called sin?

> It is so convienent however. Hey, if I do wrong, I pray 3 "ave marie" or
> give some money (often easier) and my sins are forgiven.  So I can sin as
> much as I want to.

Um, some churches may teach that but you won't find it in the bible.

>
> Thanks but no-thanks at all

I wouldn't want any of that either :-)

> Michael
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