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Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
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It seems that no one on this thread understands evolution.  The analogy
about the 747 is totally flawed and no one pointed that out.

If you really wanted to compare the spontaneous construction of a Boeing 747
to the evolutionary progression needed to "build" a human being, you would
definitely not start with parts of a plane in a junk yard.

The corresponding start would be piles of raw material scattered across the
landscape (just to make it easy.)  The ore would have to extract, refine and
transform itself into the various metals used in a plane.  Silicon would
have to extract and purify itself to turn into glass and computer parts.
The computers would have to spontaneously program themselves.  Various
hydrocarbons would have to combine and transform themselves into plastic and
fuel and hoses. The rubber for the tires, the titanium for the fan blades,
the leather for the seats, etc...

These parts would then have to attach themselves together to produce an
aerodynamic machine that can fly.

When you learn about evolution, you have to stop thinking about assembling
parts together; you have to understand how the parts themselves evolved from
swamp water.  You have to take it to the molecular level, that's when it
gets interesting.



Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Craig Lalley
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:13 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: More Evolution

--- Tim Manns <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


> So I should be able to assume if I take every single individual part for a
> Boeing 747 and throw them into a big pile, then take a stick of dynamite
and
> toss it in, if I do it enough times, I should be able to get a working
> Boeing 747 to come out right?  How many of you would be willing to believe
> that?  How much more complicated is human life, or any life for that
matter
> than a 747?  Just a little food for thought.
>

Tim, Tim, Tim,

Clearly evolutionary biology is not your speciality.  Let me explain.

If you use dynamite, it will never work.

However, if you take the individual part of a Boeing 747 and put them in a
pool of water (H20),
then zap it with lightning millions of times....

-Craig

Is it friday yet?  :-)

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