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Can we install this file anytime?

Ron Horner 
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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Tracy Pierce
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:20 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] 2007 U.S. daylight saving TZTAB available on
Jazz

apply the patch, just don't bother saving your old TZTAB.  

take a look at the file's section for your own time zone, you can see
the current rules, if not intuit exactly how they're interpreted.  if
the rules are changed again, your tztab file will need to grow to
accomodate, but it will never shrink: you can't undo a rule that applies
in the past.  note that the end of time occurs in 2038, be ready for
immortality to kick in.

http://www.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/doc/man/hpux/tztab.4.html  


> -----Original Message-----
> From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> Behalf Of Schwartzman, Zelik
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:21 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: 2007 U.S. daylight saving TZTAB available on Jazz
> 
> So now I'm confused...should we apply the patch or not
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> Behalf Of
> donna hofmeister
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:10 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: 2007 U.S. daylight saving TZTAB available on Jazz
> 
> this was noted by one of the openmpe board of director members:
> 
> One comment that should probably get back to the HP3000 community is
> that the author of the web page seems not to understand the TZTAB
> function.  In the section "Maintaining TZTAB" it is stated:
> --->
> Under section 110 of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 the 
> Secretary of the
> U.S. Department of Energy must make a report to the Congress of the
> United States on the effectiveness of the daylight saving time changes
> on energy consumption in the U.S. no later than 9 months after its
> implementation. The Congress of the United States reserves 
> the right to
> revert the daylight saving time rules to those implemented in 1986 and
> in use through 2006 based on that report.
> Should congress opt to revert U.S. daylight saving time to 
> the pre-2007
> rules this change will probably take effect after the end of MPE/iX
> support on 31 December 2008. This is why we recommend retaining a copy
> of the current (pre-2007) TZTAB.
> <---
> In the event that Congress decides to "undo" the DST rules, it won't
> undo the time relationships between UCT and Local for 
> timestamps applied
> during the period in which the new rules were in effect, so 
> we can NEVER
> return to the current TZTAB, so retaining a copy of the current TZTAB
> for the purpose of someday restoring it is nonsensical.  If the DST
> rules are in fact reverted to the old rules, then the TZTAB 
> will simply
> grow longer, not shorter.  Once you have tested the new TZTAB
> installation, you could keep the current TZTAB for historical or
> sentimental reasons, but make sure it is in a safe place where it will
> not be confused with something valid.
> 
> --- 
> Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
> dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
> 925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores
>  
> >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bill Cadier <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 4:14:13 PM
> Subject: 2007 U.S. daylight saving TZTAB available on Jazz
> 
> 
> cross posted from 3000-L
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> A replacement copy of TZTAB (tztab.lib.sys) containing the 
> new U.S. 2007 
> daylight saving time rules is now available for download from Jazz at 
> http://jazz.external.hp.com. The link straight to the 
> download page is 
> http://jazz.external.hp.com/TZTAB/
> 
> There will also be an official patch called LBCMXX4 versions 
> A, B and C 
> for 7.5, 7.0 and 6.5 respectively. I anticipate that these 3 versions 
> will be available on the ITRC by around 15 November. Once they are 
> available the web page on Jazz will be updated to reflect that.
> 
> There is absolutely no difference between the TZTAB you get from Jazz 
> and the one delivered by the patch and all the patch will do 
> is replace 
> the TZTAB file. The patches were created for those folks who 
> prefer that 
> delivery mechanism.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bill Cadier
> hp/vCSY
> 

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