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Exactly.

But it is for REPORT @.AIH;ONVS=HMO_AIH_PROD

Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Paul Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:22 PM
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Subject: [HP3000-L] OUT OF GROUP DISC SPACE (FSERR 61)

ONVS isn't a parameter on LISTGROUP.

From HELP LISTGROUP

LISTGROUP [groupset][,listfile][;PASS]
          [;FORMAT={SUMMARY|BRIEF|DETAIL}]

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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Denys Beauchemin
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OUT OF GROUP DISC SPACE (FSERR 61)

LISTGROUP TEMPDATA.AIH;ONVS=HMO_AIH_PROD

denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Kevin Smeltzer
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OUT OF GROUP DISC SPACE (FSERR 61)

listgroup tempdata.aih
********************
GROUP: TEMPDATA.AIH

DISC SPACE: **                  PASSWORD: **
CPU TIME  : 581494(SECONDS)     SECURITY--READ    : ANY
CONNECT TIME: 588(MINUTES)                WRITE   : AC
DISC LIMIT: UNLIMITED                     APPEND  : AC
CPU LIMIT : UNLIMITED                     LOCK    : ANY
CONNECT LIMIT: UNLIMITED                  EXECUTE : ANY
PRIV VOL : YES                            SAVE    : AC
FILE UFID: $056C0002 $548C98C3 $005238D8 $AD031C59 $007BDDE5 MOUNT REF CNT:
n/a HOME VOL SET : HMO_AIH_PROD
CAP: BA,IA
(definitely seems to by on private volume set)

dstat 213
 LDEV-TYPE            STATUS    VOLUME           VOLUME SET - GEN
 ----------           -------   ----------------------------------
  213-OPEN-V          MEMBER    MEMBER28         HMO_AIH_PROD-0
disk 213 seems to be on correct private volume set.

I will be up tonight at 2:00 to see where my system resources are being
used.
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From:   Gary Robillard <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:   08/30/2011 04:49 PM
Subject:        Re: [HP3000-L] OUT OF GROUP DISC SPACE (FSERR 61)
Sent by:        HP-3000 Systems Discussion <[log in to unmask]>



You could also tell by what volume set ldev 213 is in by doing a "DSTAT 213"

Is there any chance that ldev 213 is low on space (I would think you would
get an fserr 46 in that case though)...

>!  LDEV: 213      DRT: 8         UNIT: 0         !
>!  RECORD SIZE: 28     BLOCK SIZE: 1792  (BYTES) !

Gary Robillard
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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Gilles Schipper
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:29 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OUT OF GROUP DISC SPACE (FSERR 61)

Could it be that the group in question is homed to the system volume set
rather than the private volume set that was probably intended and the
account space limit for the account on the system volume set is zero.

Issue a LISTACCT command for the account in question and a LISTGROUP for the
group in question and post the results.

I suspect you may see a group that is homes to the system volume set rather
than the expected private volume set and the account limit set to zero.

This is common technique for ensuring that all groups in an account be
confined to its desired private volumeset rather than stray onto the system
volume set.

The solution would be to ALTGROUP
groupname.acctname;homevs=volsetname - assuming the assumptions made are
valid.



At 12:26 PM 2011-08-30, Kevin Smeltzer wrote:
>Several jobs abended this morning.  All with "OUT OF GROUP DISC SPACE
>(FSERR 61)"
>Account and group 'tempdata' are both set 'unlimited' for DISC LIMIT,
>CPU LIMIT,  and CONNECT LIMIT.
>The private volume set that account and group are in, have 597GB
>configured, and 102GB free  (17% free space) Programmer was able to
>'XLTRIM' the files in the group and obtain enough disk space to rerun
>the jobs.
>XLTRIM is done daily against the group tempdata.aih.  So the programmer
>only saved disk space from the files created in less than the last 24
>hours.  Not a workable long term solution.
>
>Is there a MPE limit on group disk size?
>
>Part of job log:
><cut>
>Starting sort phase.
>Starting output phase.
>100% Out=382                     Delta-Min=2:43. Wall-Min=67:58.
Cpu-Sec=395.
>IN=33995295, OUT=382. CPU-Sec=395. Wall-Sec=4078. Wall-Min=67:58.
>Unable to close this file
>MRV313Z2.TEMPDATA.AIH,NEW SD # of records=382 OUT OF GROUP DISC SPACE
>(FSERR 61)
>
>+-F-I-L-E---I-N-F-O-R-M-A-T-I-O-N---D-I-S-P-L-A-Y+
>!  FILE NAME IS MRV313Z2.TEMPDATA.AIH            !
>!  FOPTIONS: NEW,ASCII,FORMAL,F,NOCCTL,FEQ       !
>!            NOLABEL                             !
>!  AOPTIONS: IN/OUT,MR,NOLOCK,DEF,NOBUF,NOMULTI  !
>!            WAIT,COPY                           !
>!  DEVICE TYPE: 3      DEVICE SUBTYPE: 8         !
>!  LDEV: 213      DRT: 8         UNIT: 0         !
>!  RECORD SIZE: 28     BLOCK SIZE: 1792  (BYTES) !
>!  EXTENT SIZE: 65535  MAX EXTENTS: 32           !
>!  RECPTR: 384         RECLIMIT: 33995287        !
>!  LOGCOUNT: 15           PHYSCOUNT: 6           !
>!  EOF AT: 382         LABEL ADDR: %00000000000  !
>!  FILE CODE: 1084     ULABELS: 12               !
>!  FILE OWNER: JOB.AIH                           !
>!  PHYSICAL STATUS: 0000000000000000             !
>!  ERROR NUMBER: 0     RESIDUE: 5348     (WORDS) !
>!  BLOCK NUMBER: 6            NUMREC: 64         !
>+------------------------------------------------+
>
>Error:  Fatal problem during processing
>
>
>     SUPRTOOL.PUB.ROBELLE
>Program terminated in an error state. (CIERR 976) REMAINDER OF JOB
>FLUSHED.
>CPU sec. = 438.  elapsed min. = 76.  TUE, AUG 30, 2011,  2:16 AM.
>
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