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This certainly saves on up-front costs, not having to buy hardware.  But
leasing hardware in essence does the same thing.  Is it advantageous to
have your server farm off-site and managed by a third party?

John Lee


At 12:43 PM 12/5/03 -0500, Hasse, Christina wrote:
>Hi John,
>
>My understanding from HP is that the virtual adaptive approach means you
>will have software on your machine to determine the amount of usage and you
>will be charged accordingly instead of being charged a flat rate per CPU.
>
>It reminds me of what the telephone companies have done.  The assumption is
>you are overpaying for what you have now at a flat rate, so if we can charge
>you as you go, we all know that they will make more money in the end like
>the phone companies have.  In turn, at some point, like the phone companies,
>they will return to using a flat rate, because customers figure out what has
>happened and keep switching companies until they get a better deal.
>
>Regards,
>
>Christina Hasse
>ADT N.A. Technical Manager
>COGNOS CORPORATION
>425 North Martingale Road, Suite 600
>Schaumburg, IL  60173
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
>Behalf Of John Lee
>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:27 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: HP virtual adaptive enterprises
>
>
>So here we have a group of reasonably intelligent and very experienced
>technoids on this list, and nobody can understand what HP is driving at.
>Excuse me, but this only makes me want to sell my HP stock.  Or is this
>some new marketing method that is ahead of me and I can't grasp with my
>small, martini-soaked midwestern brain?
>
>John Lee
>
>
>
>At 11:19 AM 12/5/03 EST, Wirt Atmar wrote:
>>John writes:
>>
>>> Maybe what they're driving at is "virtual profits", or "virtual service",
>>>  and that is indeed a concept that I've not caught onto.  Of course, I
>>>  haven't tried the virtual sex with the 3D glasses, either.  I guess I am
>a
>>>  dinosaur. :)
>>
>>Unfortunately, you grew up in an era of real products and services, but
>that
>>time has passed. Otherwise, I don't really have a clue as to what that
>>announcement meant, but I was greatly impressed by the last paragraph:
>>
>>"Enterprises should start now to build a multiyear strategy for
>>virtualization," said Tom Bittman, vice president, Gartner. "Furthermore,
>they should
>>understand the virtualization offerings and strategies of their IT vendors
>and make
>>that a part of their overall IT selection process."
>>
>>I do know that that's exactly what we are doing now as a company: preparing
>>for the virtualization of MPE and CSY.
>>
>>Wirt Atmar
>>
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