:)

Yeah! For Denys!

Rs~
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denys Beauchemin" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "Russ Smith" <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:09 AM
Subject: RE: OT: Terry Jones (from Monty Python) on War


> That's Voltaire you twit, not Voltair.   (See I got another one right.)
:)
>
> Denys
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of
> Russ Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:38 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT: Terry Jones (from Monty Python) on War
>
> Cary responded...
> > >You seem a bit angry.  Did you not sleep well last night?
> >
> > Like a baby.....you seem a bit jaded, though.
>
> ROFL.  Thank you.  I needed that laugh.  That was great.
>
> >  Seriously, though, I don't
> > recall saying that everything in America is perfect, that all of our
> leaders
> > have squeaky clean, unquestionable integrity, etc.
> >
> > Some of your statements echo those of the isolationists of the earlier
> part
> > of last century.  History has proved their view wrong, much to the
dismay
> of
> > the millions of people who were slaughtered while we played "pocket
pool."
> >
> > I stand by my statements that ours is the best form of government.  My
> ideas
> > of world government may not really be very popular in this country, but
I
> > stand by them, too.
>
> And more power to you for it.  My point, said with not so much clarity, is
> that we Americans often make ourselves out to be the greatest thing since
> sliced bread for every situation, every people and every culture; and it's
> just not true.
>
> Is a democratic republic, or more correctly a society in which we all
argue
> and fight for the freedoms we all wish to enjoy (think Voltair) even when
we
> disagree with them, the best of all known ways to live?  You becha!  H, e,
> double toothpicks, I even think Denys gets a few right.  ;)   But, even if
> he didn't, I'd still fight for his freedom to be wrong.
>
> That doesn't mean I don't think we should invite ourselves to fewer
parties.
> I'm reminded of being a teenager in Virginia Beach and knowing that those
> people who showed up between Memorial and Labor Days did put 60+% of the
> money into the pile for the year, but it was so much nicer when they
finally
> went back to where they came from!  In retrospect, I wonder if that is
some
> part of why the change from late summer to early autumn is my favorite
time
> of the year.
>
> Anywho, I think the world sort of sees us like that.  Thanks for your
money.
> Now leave.
>
> > I disagree completely with the idea that freedom and
> > equality for all peoples of the world would be bad for business.
Indeed,
> I
> > say it would be just the opposite.
>
> I didn't say that freedom and equality for all people would be bad for
> business.  I said that PEACE would be bad for business, because we all
know
> that war is good for business.  And ipso, facto...
>
> > I also disagree that there is some push
> > to "install" a puppet government in Iraq to "improve our influence over
> > world oil markets."  That idea is ludicrous and just doesn't hold water.
>
> I didn't say we would install a puppet government.  I said installing a
> favorable government would improve our influence over the global oil
market;
> because installing a government more in tune with our way of thinking
would
> mean one more likely to make decisions in a way that is favorable to us.
We
> don't have to take overt action (via puppet strings) to be influencial.
> When a younger brother tries to be like his big brother, the older sibling
> is not telling the younger sibling what to do; but the younger brother
ends
> up doing things the same way the older brother would have.
>
> > I
> > would again point you to the fact that Iraq represents a "drop in the
> > bucket" of world oil production.  Why spend hundreds of billions and
> > priceless lives to "influence?"   One could achieve far greater results
> > using one tenth the amount of money spread among the other OPEC nations.
> > Money is the only thing that persuades better than bombs....assuming, of
> > course, that you are dealing with rational people and not Saddam
Hussein.
>
> Yes, size matters; but the important idea is that a democratic power in
the
> middle east, an oil producing one at that, would be a calming influence
> (that word again) on the region and provide a better *example* of how to
get
> along with the western world.
>
> > Cary
>
> Rs~
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